Middle East Airspace Diversions/Cancellations

Another “incident” at DXB, it’s only a matter of time till the Swiss cheese line up
Drone strike on a fuel tank at/near DXB as reported by al jazeera. Fire has been blazing there for a while.

 
Wouldn't the fuel problems impact that though (notwithstanding the "fear " factor ) ?
It's not that there's a lack of crude oil. There's a more than enough being produced. Its that the ME countries can't get it out to a significant portion of their customers and countries. The ME countries themselves won't run out of crude for centuries to come if its just for their own consumption.
 
Slightly off topic but just to let everyone know we have arrived in JNB with no stress and are reunited with Seat Son and DIL. Off on safari to Pilanesberg today. To Cape Town on the weekend and the wedding will be on 28 March.

On topic - I am pretty worried about them returning to the UAE after the wedding, both the flight back to DXB and their daily life there and in Abu Dhabi given the escalating attacks including the DIFC (where Seat Son worked when he lived in Dubai), DXB and the ABC is reporting that Iran is now issuing evacuation warnings for various areas of the UAE because they think US soldiers are sheltering in these locations.
 
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I’m guessing there are various reasons why some are being diverted to DWC and some aren’t
It appeared that EK407 from MEL circled for about 30 minutes before being diverted whereas EK319 from NRT had been circling for near on 3hrs.

* and now EK319 being diverted to AUH
 
I’m guessing there are various reasons why some are being diverted to DWC and some aren’t
It appeared that EK407 from MEL circled for about 30 minutes before being diverted whereas EK319 from NRT had been circling for near on 3hrs.

* and now EK319 being diverted to AUH
Would lack of fuel play a part? Listened to this this morning (no idea of the authenticity though, it's FB!!). 570K views · 6.7K reactions | What it sounded like to be airborne over QATAR when the Iran attacks started. | fly8MA.com
 
I legitimately wonder how many pilots and crew the ME3 are going to lose (quitting) as a result of the operations over the last few weeks.

I can't imagine that many would be happy to fly in and out of active war activity zones.
 
I legitimately wonder how many pilots and crew the ME3 are going to lose (quitting) as a result of the operations over the last few weeks.

Especially given the majority of the EK and QR flight attendants crewing flights whose destination is outside the ME are foreigners not from the ME, so would be able to go home to a safer place right now.
 
I legitimately wonder how many pilots and crew the ME3 are going to lose (quitting) as a result of the operations over the last few weeks.

I can't imagine that many would be happy to fly in and out of active war activity zones.
If this war persists into April, many may be compelled to seek alternative employment. I remember reading or hearing that the Gulf nations are closely monitoring the situation and plan to reassess by March 31st. If there's no clear indication of an end, they are likely to implement some form of contingency plan for their economies, though the details will remain unclear until closer to that date.
 
I legitimately wonder how many pilots and crew the ME3 are going to lose (quitting) as a result of the operations over the last few weeks.

I can't imagine that many would be happy to fly in and out of active war activity zones.

I previously asked but didn't obtain a response.

Are these flight deck and cabin crew based in DXB, AUH and DOH still being paid despite the huge number of flight cancellations?

Are any being forced to take 'annual leave' or 'sick days' due to the lack of flights?
 
Do I think I will get any reimbursement from my TI or EU261, most likely not but I will give it a go.
As an up date I took the punt and contacted my TI company and it was a no go. As the conversation progressed I could not help but to have a felling of the call centre agent had been given a script directing me to page 5X and general exclusions 'citing war'. I was expecting this would be the case but gave it ago, will I bother with EU261, most likely not as I suspect the result will be the same.
 
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I previously asked but didn't obtain a response.

Are these flight deck and cabin crew based in DXB, AUH and DOH still being paid despite the huge number of flight cancellations?

Are any being forced to take 'annual leave' or 'sick days' due to the lack of flights?
If Emirates can pay a 20 plus week bonus to every staff member in recent years then I'm sure they are paying base wages at the bare minimum, especially given they'd hate to lose staff if this blows over.

If this lasts for a longer period then who knows what could happen.
 
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I previously asked but didn't obtain a response.

Are these flight deck and cabin crew based in DXB, AUH and DOH still being paid despite the huge number of flight cancellations?

Are any being forced to take 'annual leave' or 'sick days' due to the lack of flights?
I don't think we would know unless anyone knows someone working in one of the airlines. And even then they may have a gag order right now as well. UAE for example has a very serious gag order out for anyone filming anything to do with the missile and drones. Lots of people have been arrested and forced to delete their footages - which is why we don't see very much about the missiles and drones in UAE.
 
So I was a bit bullish thinking
Hi all, I have a QF reward booking on EK409 MEL-DXB on the 19 March and then a revenue booking on EK109 DXB-LCA as my son is getting married in Cyprus. I have booked back up flights via HKG but was wondering a few things.

EK409 has not been flying, however I see EK407 has. There are reward seats available on EK407 and I can cancel my existing booking and re book on this flight, however my TA said that Emirates is only taking passengers who are repatriating back home, and not passengers who are just travelling.

Does anyone know if this is correct or if i would be able to board if I have a confirmed ticket (assuming EK407 is still operating).

Thank you.
So an update on my post. I received a message a few days ago saying we had been moved to EK407 and we could fly as long as we had an onward booking, which we did. I was bullish/optimistic that we could fly from a safety perspective with the only real concern that we could get stuck in Dubai and not make the wedding. After todays temporary closure of DXB we have changed tact and have cancelled our EK flights and reverted to our back up MCY SYD KUL HKG with MH and then HKG IST ATH with TK and then ATH LCA with Aegean. Lots of flying but fortunate to be in J and we get to try new airlines and lounges :p
 
As an up date I took the punt and contacted my TI company and it was a no go. As the conversation progressed I could not help but to have a felling of the call centre agent had been given a script directing me to page 5X and general exclusions 'citing war'. I was expecting this would be the case but gave it ago, will I bother with EU261, most likely not as I suspect the result will be the same.
Once your flight was cancelled, that’s when EU261 kicks in. You have to contact thr airline and they will re-route you… at the earliest opportunity (can be any airline) and in the same class of travel. They also cover hotels and meals while you wait.

If you accept a refund, or voluntarily cancel, you extinguish your rights under 261 unfortunately.

The downside is having to wait for your flight to be cancelled, but the upside is that even if another airline only had $10k business class seats left, it doesn’t matter.
 
Once your flight was cancelled, that’s when EU261 kicks in. You have to contact thr airline and they will re-route you… at the earliest opportunity (can be any airline) and in the same class of travel. They also cover hotels and meals while you wait.

If you accept a refund, or voluntarily cancel, you extinguish your rights under 261 unfortunately.

The downside is having to wait for your flight to be cancelled, but the upside is that even if another airline only had $10k business class seats left, it doesn’t matter.
Is there a penalty or fine for airlines not providing re-routing in accordance with 261? Wondering if there's a point at which it becomes cheaper to to just cop the fine/penalty than re-route.
 

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