Ask The Pilot

[jb747]

Do you talk into a "radio"

I prefer sneaking around in silence.

DCS is getting a hiding, I'm guessing. Impressive setup.

All I have is an Xbox running MS Flight Sim and a Turtle Beach Velocity One controller which is a bit underwhelming, I must say.

I sometimes watch Mover (CW Lemoine) YT vids when he shows what DCS can be like with one of those headsets. Same with Tim Davies (former RAF FJ driver).

Do a search for a YouTube channel called Growling Sidewinder.

 

[jb747]

These are shockers, that I hadn't heard about before.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/sites/default/files/2025-11/AO-2023-043%20Final.pdf

 

[Dale Eastham]

I can understand how NOTAM information can be missed, and if you dont listen carefully to the AITS then confirmation bias might mean you only hear the parts you are expecting to hear - but the people and equipment working on the far end of the runway are going to have flashing yellow beacon lights on the vehicles as an absolute minimum.
You would be accelerating directly towards them, so the may not be moving in relation to the background, but are there that many lights beyond the end of the runway that flashing/rotating lights would get lost in the background?

 

[markis10]

but the people and equipment working on the far end of the runway are going to have flashing yellow beacon lights on the vehicles as an absolute minimum.

Not necessarily, it’s not unusual to have an escort with a works crew using equipment and cars/trucks that don’t have beacons.

Crew are not necessarily looking out the window either.

 

[torks]

Does the fact that this happened twice in a relatively small space of time highlight how the notification procedure (via NOTAMs and ATIS) is inadequate or should the pilots/airline of done better? I believe you've mentioned in the past that it wasn't unusual to receive dozens (hundreds) of Notam's, the vast majority of which are irrelevant, which I guess can cause people to miss the important ones.

 

[Quickstatus]

These are shockers

Likely they don't review NOTAMS or listen to ATIS in their entirety during routine operations because they think most of the time there is nothing out of ordinary. Eventually the deviation from good practice is normalised.

Both pilots of both aircraft did not detect the shortened runway suggesting a systemic issue is at play rather than just human error

I guess can cause people to miss the important ones.

Like alarms or aural warnings. If activated incessantly, people will eventually start to ignore them.