Uber cancellation request from Driver; is this the norm?

leadman

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I recently switched from taxis to Uber to/from MEL airport because I'm fairly certain a taxi driver scammed my CC a few months ago. Everything seems fine, rides are good and the QF points are added to my account almost immediately. Except this morning. Booked the car and got a call from the driver asking where I was because Uber wasn't mapping the correct location (but I watched him on the map turning into about three streets to get to me). Asked me where I was going, as the app wasn't working, but he knew it was Terminal 1. It was a pleasant trip, but at the airport he asked could I cancel the trip as he could not end the journey in his system. I arrived at SYD and looked at the fare; tolls applied plus other costs, but no QF points and it shows I'm still in Southbank. The account says it's the penalty for the drivers time. I tried going through their Help menus, but forget it; better luck walking through a labyrinth!

Is this the norm for Uber when they have a problem? Is there a con here?
 
Sounds like a scam of some sort. I refuse to cancel the ride, always.
If you have a backup app it’s helpful as they tend to play a game of chicken, knowing you need to get somewhere
 
It's been billed correctly, $56, and I can see it in the Uber app in my activity, but it just shows that it's cancelled, and the ride went nowhere, i.e., there is no journey map other than the pick-up spot. Weird! The number plate also matched, along with the driver's name. But no points allocated.
 
I've had cancellations before the ride. Usually during busy times when it first takes time to find a driver. Then they cancel on you. You submit a new request, only for the next driver cancelling, too. Lousy!
 
I've had cancellations before the ride. Usually during busy times when it first takes time to find a driver. Then they cancel on you. You submit a new request, only for the next driver cancelling, too. Lousy!
That’s fine if they cancel. But ones who ask you to cancel, or play chicken with your booking incur fees on you!
 
That’s fine if they cancel. But ones who ask you to cancel, or play chicken with your booking incur fees on you!
I ask passengers to cancel, when I'm stuck in traffic, or the pick up is in a closed off street etc.
Don't assume drivers are aresholes, because we feel the same about passengers who are ALWAYS trying to rip us off ...
 
I ask passengers to cancel, when I'm stuck in traffic, or the pick up is in a closed off street etc.
Don't assume drivers are aresholes, because we feel the same about passengers who are ALWAYS trying to rip us off ...
How can a passenger rip you off? (Genuine question)
 
How can a passenger rip you off? (Genuine question)
DiDi passengers willfully choose a fare type, that is about 40% less than the normal DISCOUNTED fare.
I assume Uber has similar tactics.
Eg. Sydney Domestic to city was around $40. six years ago. Today, using the 'cheap' options, you can pay just $17. for the same trip .... six years later.
What did YOUR pay go up by, in six years ??
 
Sorry, I’m confused. I thought we were talking about scams. But you just seem to be arguing that the amount Uber charges/pays you is lower?
Regardless, if the driver is stuck in traffic I’d assume they can cancel it themselves. I understanding with some apps that otherwise this would create a fee for the passenger.
 
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Sorry, I’m confused. I thought we were talking about scams. But you just seem to be arguing that the amount Uber charges/pays you is lower?
Regardless, if the driver is stuck in traffic I’d assume they can cancel it themselves. I understanding with some apps that otherwise this would create a fee for the passenger.
A very late response to the above but the situation as below is still the same today. I cannot tell you how I know but there are a number of scams by the Uber drivers (Partners). The main one involves you, the Rider. You book a trip and a driver is allocated to pick you up. The driver just drives and Uber runs 100% of everything else. If a driver calls you and asks you to cancel, my advice to you is to say absolutely nothing and just hang up.
The moment you cancel after the 5 minute free cancellation period, you pay. If the driver asks you to cancel it is usually because he has accepted the trip on his way home and has no intention of picking you up and once the 5 minute free fee period passes, they call and ask the rider to cancel. Do that a couple of times on the way home and it pays for his petrol when the driver gets zero $ when driving on his own time.
 
Recent article from the ABC

Without a doubt, an interesting article, but there are a number of things that the passengers (Riders) do not know. So here goes......

As most people know, Uber states it is just an IT company that has an App they 'make available for Drivers (Partners) to utilise. Partners have 0% involvement or say in what happens, they just drive! There are occasional discussions but there is a view that little comes of it all.

Partners have to go to some expense to acquire all the relevant documents before being permitted to utilise the Uber App. Government form which means applying for a PTD and a PTV (n addition to the regular drivers licence), DOT vehicle inspection (gone up over 100% in the past few years), police check, driver infringement check, Rego goes up, Insurance goes up (Uber only covers the Rider), Medical and Eye test and most of these have to be done every year.

Late last year Uber increased the commission they take from Partners, in my case, up by 21% to 28% in one go. At the same time Uber 'reduced' the cost of fares to the Riders so the minimum fare dropped by around 50 cents. Uber said that it would encourage more people to ride with Uber and as a result, the partners would earn more. Absolute rubbish!. Partners can still only drive for the same amount of time so as a result, Partners are earning less now than they did a few years ago.

In the ABC article there is reference to fraudulent activities, such as, "deliberately increasing time and distance of a trip, accepting trip, order or delivery requests without the intention to complete, may result in loss of access to the Uber apps," the statement said. Suggesting Riders are paying up to three times the cost is a bit of a stretch. You should know that Uber monitors all trips and one of the main problems is that Uber continually 'under estimates' the time of trips. There only has to be 5-10 minutes extra driving from time to time on some of the longer trips which effectively adds up to several hours in a month and on an annual basis, full time drivers are being cheated on a considerable sum of earnings by say, 100 hours a year.

If a Partner does not accept a trip it is referred to as a 'decline' and if that happens too often, then the partner risks breaching the 15% allowance at which point the Partner loses out and is effectively punished by Uber. Possibly a safety issue here.

As for queues at the airports, I have dropped Riders off and I have seen that the queue is full EVERY time. I never waste time in queues....... it's a taxi mentality. However, when several planes land at the same time and hundreds of passengers are looking for transport, there are often not enough drivers available, hence the SURGE pricing. If you can wait 15-20 minutes that surge usually drops back to normal levels.

I don't necessarily agree with some of the antics, but driving for 12 hours a day for a living is hard work; not physically, but mentally.
 

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