India Covid

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Interesting data from India
As well all know India suffered a major wave of Delta infections which overwhelmed its hospitals
That was in May where over 400,000 new cases per day were detected.
However by 1 july that number had plummeted to 46,000 per day

However the vaccinations on 1July were noted to be 20% 1Jab and only 4% 2Jab

I have always wondered how the dramatic turnaround in Covid positive cases, hospitalisation and deaths occured in spite of a very low 2Jab Vax rate. There were lockdowns but I cant imagine that in densely populated (pop 1.4Billion) India that that would be of significant efficacy

 

[RB]

The driver who we have used on our previous trips in India has his own theory. 50ml of Indian rum every day-says none of his friends have been sick!

 

[drron]

Interesting data from India
As well all know India suffered a major wave of Delta infections which overwhelmed its hospitals
That was in May where over 400,000 new cases per day were detected.
However by 1 july that number had plummeted to 46,000 per day

However the vaccinations on 1July were noted to be 20% 1Jab and only 4% 2Jab

I have always wondered how the dramatic turnaround in Covid positive cases, hospitalisation and deaths occured in spite of a very low 2Jab Vax rate. There were lockdowns but I cant imagine that in densely populated (pop 1.4Billion) India that that would be of significant efficacy


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First although 400000 cases a day seems a horrendous number it actually would translate to an equivalent number to 1761 cases per day in Victoria on a population basis.
Also in June/July surveys of the Indian population revealed 67% had antibodies to covid 19.So presumably cases were a lot higher.Hence the likely reason for the decrease.

 

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Indian rum

They love their Rum especially the darker ones.

 

[dajop]

From what I read, lot's of exposure, not a lot of testing, and plenty of antibodies floating around even in the unvaccinated which suggested a lot of people were exposed to the virus. Particularly in rural areas, lots of people probably had the virus, and many died without even being tested. And many more recovered without being tested.

 

[Ade]

They love their Rum especially the darker ones.

This is the one that most of my mates, their fathers & grandfathers in India love - Old Monk Rum.

Old Monk - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

When I was a kid (say, 1996/97, when my parents first got a color telly), I remember seeing TVC's for this particular rum ... there are no advertising for liquor anymore on telly these days

 

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June/July surveys of the Indian population revealed 67% had antibodies to covid 19

I wonder if that suggests that it was a "mass" inoculation due to infection by the earlier non Delta strains that provided some protection.
We don't normally see rapid population seroconversion in a matter of weeks.

The Delta infectivity in Australia caused the largest hospitalisation and deaths in NSW. By the same theory, the hospital rates were high because the seroconversions and level of population immunity from the first wave were very low in NSW

 

[JohnM]

I wonder if that suggests that it was a "mass" inoculation due to infection by the earlier non Delta strains that provided some protection.
We don't normally see rapid population seroconversion in a matter of weeks.

The Delta infectivity in Australia caused the largest hospitalisation and deaths in NSW. By the same theory, the hospital rates were high because the seroconversions and level of population immunity from the first wave were very low in NSW

And a good reason why this virus needs to become endemic as soon as reasonably practicable to get Australia out of the corner into which it been painted by a bunch of people who, when all is said and done, don't really know what they are doing. Delta is, unfortunately, the fly in the ointment.

 

[digpomi]

Natural COVID cycle without vaccination seems to be 6 months.Surges for 2 months in middle.

 

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Natural COVID cycle without vaccination seems to be 6 months.Surges for 2 months in middle.

Not sure how this conclusion is deduced?

 

[Ade]

I wonder if that suggests that it was a "mass" inoculation due to infection by the earlier non Delta strains that provided some protection.

I'd say yes, exposure to infections early on, on a massive level, provided, in the words of England PM, Boris, "herd immunity" to the masses.

I think the herd immunity is a very common thing in India - as in, as a kid growing up in India, I have always had runny nose, fever at least 5-6 times a year, Vit-D was at it's highest level possible, never heard of an allergy or a reaction to any food or anything ... your body gets accustomed to pretty much anything & everything ...

In fact, people back in India have started to take tours/travels around the country ... My parents, sister & cousins are on a tour of the Coorg State right now. They showed around the sights on FaceTime and NO ONE, yes, you heard right, NO ONE was wearing a mask ... and there was no social distancing or anything ... it looked like things are back to normal, tourism wise in India .... If someone has not contracted the virus so far, will do so now and their immune systems will improve ...

 

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Spoke with Indian friend
He says millions died of Covid in India rather than the suggested450k (John Hopkins)
But the curves and dates re peak in May and recovery by July is accurate.
And confirms covid no longer a problem in hospitals.

 

[Pushka]

Spoke with Indian friend
He says millions died of Covid in India
But the curves and dates re peak in May and recovery by July is accurate.
And confirms covid no longer a problem in hospitals.

I thought I heard in the media that pregnancies were proving very worrying with high rates of miscarriage and premature births.

 

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pregnancies

We did not talk about that aspect of covid but the general view is apparently is that Covid not an issue compared with the peak when people could not get treatment. To what extent it is not an issue is not certai .