SYD-LAX Is this the biggest cost difference by class ever.

[sweens]

I was just checking the QF web site for a retun SYD -LAX flight Dep May 6th and return on May 16th.

The lowest cost RTN prices by class were...Econ $898 PE $4,000 plus & Bus $14,000 plus.

Could this be the biggest variation ever...over 14 x the Econ fare to fly business on the same QF flight?

 

[Warks]

I was just checking the QF web site for a retun SYD -LAX flight Dep May 6th and return on May 16th.

The lowest cost RTN prices by class were...Econ $898 PE $4,000 plus & Bus $14,000 plus.

Could this be the biggest variation ever...over 14 x the Econ fare to fly business on the same QF flight?

Well that champagne or OJ before you take off isn't cheap you know! And as for hot towels...:mrgreen:

 

[Blackswan]

Well that champagne or OJ before you take off isn't cheap you know! And as for hot towels...:mrgreen:

Doesn't Y get hot towels on this route too?

 

[sweens]

Forget the hot towels...I might just buy a row of 4 econ seats and snooze it all the way to L.A.

Still cheaper than 1 PE seat.

Not sure how anyone could justify the J seat at over $13,000 difference!As it would buy a mighty lot of food and beverage and some good accomodation in L.A.

 

[Alanslegal]

Well you can do plenty of things with $13K but if time is of the essence (and even better if somewhere else is paying) and you need to get to LAX and back and in J, then $13K is a price that will be paid however not as eagerly as it once was before the GFC.

However if you were a bit flexible with time and routings, you will find that you could do plenty of things with that $13K and could be finding yourself visiting LAX (and other places) more than a few times each - and flying all in J or F.

 

[aus_flyer]

Forget the hot towels...I might just buy a row of 4 econ seats and snooze it all the way to L.A.

Plus you'd earn points for all of the seats!
(and before people try to tell me otherwise, yes... you do earn the points)

 

[laffer]

Plus you'd earn points for all of the seats!
(and before people try to tell me otherwise, yes... you do earn the points)

I am not going to tell you otherwise but I want you to tell me how he would earn points for all of the seats (apart from having a seperate account)?

 

[aus_flyer]

I am not going to tell you otherwise but I want you to tell me how he would earn points for all of the seats (apart from having a seperate account)?

Check out the Qantas website >> FAQs >> do a search for "extra seat" and have a look at the question (along the lines of) "Can I purchase an extra seat for comfort"

 

[simongr]

I think it would be very risky buying the extra three seats as although they might be allocated to you - people will in all likelihood move into them from their cramped middle seat...

 

[sweens]

Is the suggestion here that I could earn FF points and Status Credits on multiple discounted Y seats purchased for myself (I am unlikly to ever do this).
If so the way I see it I would earn the same as J level Status credits 360 and more points than flying in F.

See the following assumption based on SYD- LAX- SYD. (Not considering Status Bonus)

Class Base points Status credits

Discount Y 14,982 90 x 4 seat multiple purchase
PE 16,482 180
J 18725 360
F 22,474 540

Please correct me if I am wrong but I would find it amazing if true!!

 

[tuapekastar]

I think it would be very risky buying the extra three seats as although they might be allocated to you - people will in all likelihood move into them from their cramped middle seat...

I would hope you would be issued with BPs for each seat, or at least have some other documentary proof that you have in fact purchased and been allocated all four seats. You may indeed have to ward off a few potential intruders early on, but with the proof-of-purchase, and assistance of the FAs I can't see it being other than an early-in-the-flight irritant.

 

[Mal]

Is the suggestion here that I could earn FF points and Status Credits on multiple discounted Y seats purchased for myself (I am unlikly to ever do this).

There's been a bit of chatter about this before - although I'm not sure what the outcome was. However Qantas does have a FAQ which covers this:
Answer

Question
Can I purchase an extra seat for personal comfort?

Answer
Yes. Call your local Qantas office for more information about purchasing additional seats for personal comfort. Seat belt extensions can also be requested if required.

You can earn Qantas Frequent Flyer points for the extra seat subject to current Frequent Flyer terms and conditions.

See also http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...inimum-points-guarantee-v-multiple-15797.html

 

[bambbbam2]

I believe (although don't quote me on this) that extra seats do earn extra FF points but do NOT earn extra SC's.

 

[jamesatfish]

I was just checking the QF web site for a retun SYD -LAX flight Dep May 6th and return on May 16th.

The lowest cost RTN prices by class were...Econ $898 PE $4,000 plus & Bus $14,000 plus.

Could this be the biggest variation ever...over 14 x the Econ fare to fly business on the same QF flight?

Of course the even more stupid thing is that a round-the-world Business fare is only $9,900 plus taxes at the moment - so if you don't mind a couple of extra flights and a day's extra travel (plus the extra SCs and FF points) why wouldn't you just come home from LAX via LHR & SIN and save $4,000?

At $4,000 per day you'd need to be on a salary of more than $1M per year to get to the point where a day of your work time is worth more than they money you'd save.

Even the AONE4 fare in First is only $14,000 plus taxes.

 

[JohnK]

Could this be the biggest variation ever...over 14 x the Econ fare to fly business on the same QF flight?

Being the cheapskate that I usually am with spending money on airfares I could get 14 trips in WHY for the same price as one business class seat. I know which I would choose without even thinking about it.

I wish they would do the same sort of discounting to SE Asia and then I can resume my normal 3-4 trips a year that have been put on hold recently....

 

[Dave Noble]

Of course the even more stupid thing is that a round-the-world Business fare is only $9,900 plus taxes at the moment - so if you don't mind a couple of extra flights and a day's extra travel (plus the extra SCs and FF points) why wouldn't you just come home from LAX via LHR & SIN and save $4,000?

At $4,000 per day you'd need to be on a salary of more than $1M per year to get to the point where a day of your work time is worth more than they money you'd save.

Even the AONE4 fare in First is only $14,000 plus taxes.

There is also the 10 day minimum stay requirement to consider on top of the need to travel 16,000 miles home rather than 7500

Also, the ATW ticket price returns to $10,999 soon

Dave

 

[jamesatfish]

There is also the 10 day minimum stay requirement to consider on top of the need to travel 16,000 miles home rather than 7500

Dave

True, though the OP was talking about May 6th to 16th so I assumed that the 10 day requirement wouldn't be an issue.

Valid point about the extra travel - not everyone enjoys flying for the sake of flying even if it means saving a few dollars (although it seems many on this forum, myself included, would consider the extra BIS miles a bonus not a curse).

 

[Dave Noble]

Valid point about the extra travel - not everyone enjoys flying for the sake of flying even if it means saving a few dollars (although it seems many on this forum, myself included, would consider the extra BIS miles a bonus not a curse).

I would expect that most people would have a similar view to me if asked to fly an extra 8500 miles to save a company a tax deductible $3500 if it was a business trip .

Also, the other bit to consider is that a r/t ticket will book into a higher booking class than an ATW so availability can be better

Dave

 

[Soundguy]

I believe (although don't quote me on this) that extra seats do earn extra FF points but do NOT earn extra SC's.

I only did this once with Qantas a couple of years back and earned FF points AND SC's for the extra seat. All I wanted was the SC's otherwise I would not have done it.

Funny thing in this case was that the flight was overbooked so I waived my right to the extra seat at the check-in counter to help Qantas & still got the extra SC's - basically earned double at less cost than an upgraded ticket class. The extra space would have been nice but wasn't such a priority to me in this case, just needed a few more SC's that week to qualify for Gold.

 

[jamesatfish]

I would expect that most people would have a similar view to me if asked to fly an extra 8500 miles to save a company a tax deductible $3500 if it was a business trip.

I guess so - in my case if I fly it's one of my own companies footing the bill so that means I'll go a lot further to save some money. If I was back in my pure consulting days and a client was picking up the tab I suppose I'd think differently.

I guess that's the perfect explanation to the OP's observation - those companies willing to book a r/t J fare SYD-LAX are probably the least price sensitive of all Qantas' customers, hence the ability to charge as they do for that ticket.