Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

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they can be working for over 24 hours while being contagious

Not really an issue since they are the only employee in the building during her shift, so no one else to infect, drives to and from solo.

Close contacts (i.e. those directed to get tested) and essential worker sureveillance tests are prioritised and processed within the state.

No other state has ever continually processes over 110k test per day, even adjusted for population size differences. So some lower priority tests are taking longer, but majority are processed within a day.

Even states with a handful of cases do not hit 100% of test results within 24 hours.
 
The ACEM college finals (OSCE, face to face) which were to have taken place for NSW candidates at end of August have been put back until the end of November.
These are the final examinations for Specialist Doctors in Emergency Medicine.

Gives some indication of the projected time frame for Sydney to get back to normal.
 
The ACEM college finals (OSCE, face to face) which were to have taken place for NSW candidates at end of August have been put back until the end of November.
These are the final examinations for Specialist Doctors in Emergency Medicine.

Gives some indication of the projected time frame for Sydney to get back to normal.
Do you think Sydney will ever return to normal? Serious question.
At the moment they appear to be attempting to put toothpaste back in a tube. A task that's difficult but not impossible with enough care and attention. However, a common sentiment I'm hearing is that they should simply give up. I'm not sure that's the smartest move at this stage but if enough people start thinking that way, that toothpaste will be smeared everywhere...
 
A lot of the supposed "tough"restrictions in other states are just an illusion.

Spot on! But who said illusion's are not effective? The "ring of steel" was largely an illusion , but sent a strong message. The curfew was less of an illusion, but still could be worked around, and also sent a strong message.

If there is one thing Brad Hazzard (and perhaps even Gladys) could learn from the state that shall not be named is consistent, strong, simple communications (some would say blunt) , even if that involves an illusion or two.
 
I have spoken to a friend that today had to watch the funeral of their baba over zoom. For someone who was quite close to their baba, this has caused them a lot of distress.

Society has changed, no one is discounting the sacrifice that previous generations have made. But lets be honest, we are comparing apples and oranges here, lets have some empathy here (something that has really gone amiss as of recent).

As unfortunate as that is, it is a separate issue. Attending a funeral affects everyone, not just the young, fit and healthy. The vulnerable and elderly also want attend funerals. Under the alternative two-tier proposal, only the fit and healthy would be able to attend, while those in the older age group would be prevented.

The alternative proposal asks for 100% empathy for the fit, and zero empathy for the vulnerable. That's not acceptable to me and I'd rather be in an 'all in this together' model and make equal sacrifices.
 
... If there is one thing Brad Hazzard (and perhaps even Gladys) could learn from the state that shall not be named is consistent, strong, simple communications (some would say blunt) , even if that involves an illusion or two.
Quote: "This is not NSW, I will stay to answer all your questions."
 
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No other state is in a position of needing to do it...yet.

Though Vic has done a lot of surveillance testing of essential workers when it was needed to do so, which is not now except for very focused workplaces as things are not rampantly out of control.


In terms of the present, some restrictions are tougher in NSW are tougher and some are not.

NSW is the only state out of control with massive unknown community spread. ie When you do not have rampant unknown cases it would be pointless to have random testing on large volumes of people that would just interfere with the testing of symptomatic cases and close contacts.
When Vic did a lot of testing of testing of asymptomatic people in targeted LGA's it gained little return on that investment and deemed the resources were better used in other ways.

However at the height of the Vic Second Wave the restrictions then were much tougher than NSW has every used. So Gladys claim of hardest lockdown ever in Australia is false, and moreso when she made the claim.


What matters the here and now in any State/Region is are the restrictions/measures being used getting the situation under control in that State/Region. Is the virus still spreading, or is it declining? Are there less cases of severe illness, or more? How long a time period is it ok to keep being in lockdown?

The question really is not how hard restrictions/measure are. The question is are they hard enough, or not, for the situation at hand in that State/Region? If they are hard enough, then all well and good. If not then you need to go harder irrespective of which State/Region you are looking at.
 
If you think pathology in any of our states are capable of handling in excess of 150,000 tests per day without using interstate capacity then you are very sorely mistaken. It may not be ideal but it is reality.

WA was handling Victorian tests during peak periods of 2020.
No, I don't expect any State could without contingency planning.

The inability to process the tests promptly has existed for over a month now & nothing has been done to increase NSW's processing capacity.

A bit like the Federal medical stockpile not being fully replenished in late 2019 (as part of an attempt to generate a budget surplus) over $150m of purchasing was deferred to the 2020/21 Financial Year - you'd hope the lesson would have been learnt from early 2020.

NSW using all existing machines (public & private) 24 x 7 can only process in the low 60,000s per day.

NSW did not plan for the possibility of a major outbreak, nor that it could impact other States and did not increase NSW's capacity since the Ruby Princess outbreak was finally resolved.

The thinking was that the private sector, within the State, would be able to cope as 'Contact tracing can handle it'. The private sector would not expand capacity without being underwritten by the State Govt. State Govt didn't do that. Even the failure of Federal outsourcing to the private sector for vaccination of Aged & Disability Care facility residents & workers - didn't prompt a rethink.

Despite this now being a serious issue making contact tracing a 'seen to be done' exercise as they are so far behind the game - as The Hunter is demonstrating - the NSW Govt has not announced any additional capacity being created in NSW. A case of being "Penny wise but pound foolish." ?

With the expansion of 'hot LGAs' the daily surveillance test numbers will only increase further, creating longer delays, leading to more people working while infectious creating the worst possible vicious circle. Is that why there has been such a reluctance to expand the LGAs listed until today?

At the same time the breakthrough cases in staff at Liverpool hospital illustrates how crucial prompt processing is parramount - deaths now at 7 sadly.

The strain is becoming increasingly evident with NSW Health reports/updates getting more & more delayed, the main web page for NSW 'Venues of concern' has not been updated since July 31st (for example). Some venues no longer get listed at all as our local MP got formally advised by NSW Health over the 'Royal Randwick Shopping Centre' cases - it was visted by two separate CV+ve cases (followed up MP over suggestion it may have been a false +ve).

New cases in the SouthEast were around 79/week through July and the last 3 days = 80. Sydney LHD had 60 cases just today. Not getting any media coverage though.

This is the latest available report from NSW Health - ending July 24th.

2021 07 24 LHD weekly cases.jpg

 
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But who said illusion's are not effective?

The Vic Police reported negatively ont he Ring of Steel for one.

NSW daily covid numbers are still less than 50% of Vic second wave peak. Moblity data shows Sydnsiders no more mobile than Melbournians during lockdown, all without a curfew or faux ring of steal. There are rule breakers everywhere and tightening the restrictions will frustrate people more and likely lead to more disregarding them.

The vulnerable and elderly also want attend funerals. Under the alternative two-tier proposal, only the fit and healthy would be able to attend, while those in the older age group would be prevented.

Not if they get vaccinated.

Look around the world, the vaccinated get prvilege and the unvacinated suffer restrictions, it is the only fair way. Keeping everyone locked down til the tardy get vaccinated or because the anti-vaxxers never do is no way to live.
 
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Not if they get vaccinated.

Look around the world, the vaccinated get prvilege and the unvacinated suffer restrictions, it is the only fair way. Keeping everyone locked down til the tardy get vaccinated or because the anti-vaxxers never do is no way to live.

Fair enough. But the young are only just now eligible to be vaccinated. Prior to the roll out this week, the two-tier model suggested the young, fit and healthy be allowed free range (let it rip) and the elderly and vulnerable be shielded.
 
Actually no resident Aussie can leave the country without an exemption which can be denied at the whim of a bureaucrat. That is just one of the many prior freedoms which is currently being denied under the guise of "keeping everyone safe".
Leaving the country permanently is one of the exemptions available. Perhaps if some people (including a few Affers who posted the ways around) hdn't rorted the system to go on holiday to Europe or elsewhere - this would not be required?
 
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