The COVID-19 vaccine rollout in Australia has begun

[mviy]

Agree but how long will that last. A few thousand waitlist will be knocked over in no time.

Well if that happens they can consider opening it up to younger adults to register! Then once they run out of those to do they'll need to work on incentives for vaccination and stepping up an advertising campaign.

 

[burmans]

But with many facilities to visit there's only so many they can visit a day. There's also a lot of planning involved. You need the aged care home to get informed ahead of time so that they can be prepared. When we weren't in lockdown there were things like residents being taken out for the day etc. (obviously on vaccination day that wouldn't be good), time needs to be provided for residents to reschedule other medical appointments etc., allowances made for flu vaccine needing to be taken 14 days before or after the COVID shot etc.

Where possible it's important to avoid residents being missed when the aged care facility is visited or the team will need to go back extra times to the facility slowing things down.

Excuses, excuses? This would be fair if we are talking a few days but vaccination of aged care was supposed to be a priority and to be finished about 3 months ago. Planning? It appears not so much of this actually occurred, even though we knew it would have to happen, I’m a bit tired of people trying to excuse the inexcusable.

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Well if that happens they can consider opening it up to younger adults to register! Then once they run out of those to do they'll need to work on incentives for vaccination and stepping up an advertising campaign.

I would agree. Problem now is not supply, it’s getting people to actually get the vaccine.

 

[Lynda2475]

Problem now is not supply, it’s getting people to actually get the vaccine.

Supply is not an issue for AZ but it is still very much an issue for Pfizer, we wont get bulk of our doses until much later in the year.

 

[burmans]

Supply is not an issue for AZ but it is still very much an issue for Pfizer, we wont get bulk of our doses until much later in the year.

All of the people I know who are under 50 who want vaccination either have already had the vaccine or have an appointment in the next few weeks. Everyone keeps talking about supply but that doesn’t seem to be the lived experience (VIC may be different of course)

 

[burmans]

Well if that happens they can consider opening it up to younger adults to register! Then once they run out of those to do they'll need to work on incentives for vaccination and stepping up an advertising campaign.

Well they have already done that for 40+ in Victoria so sounds to me like supply isn’t quite the limiting factor that some suggest?

 

[mviy]

In VIC and still not currently eligible. I would have got vaccinated on day 1 of the rollout if I was eligible and somehow managed to get an appointment. So waiting patiently to become eligible. Can't currently try getting it earlier heading interstate either due to the lockdown. Not that it'll make much immediate difference as the main reason I want to get vaccinated is so that I can travel overseas and seeing I haven't been vaccinated yet the next suitable time for me to travel is the end of the year and even that probably won't be allowed.

 

[Jenya]

Agree, I think if International travel and free return with home quarantine would be main incentive for most. I haven't been to my home country for 3 years and desperate to travel by the end of the year. Probably have to use NZ bubble loop hole to get out of here....

 

[jakeseven7]

Supply is not an issue for AZ but it is still very much an issue for Pfizer, we wont get bulk of our doses until much later in the year.

Incorrect, supply is an issue for both. There are still massive logistical challenges getting AZ to the right places where people want to get vaccinated, thousands of GP clinics are still operating at minimal capacity because they don’t have enough AZ - still. It’s just madness this is still occurring.

Although the Fed government has now allowed VIC GPs to apparently put in a manual request for more vaccine to cater for the surge in demand... I’ve heard reports of +300 doses which is better than nothing.

 

[Lynda2475]

There are still massive logistical challenges getting AZ to the right places where people want to get vaccinated, thousands of GP clinics are still operating at minimal capacity because they don’t have enough AZ - still. It’s just madness this is still occurring

That is a different issue, we have more than adequate supplies of AZ in country we make it here, Pfizer is only being delivered in small volumes with over 50% of our order not due to arrive until October onwards.

Many GPRCs are srill swimming in unused doses, it is still super easy to get a same day appointment at a GPRC. If your regular GP doesnt have doses, show some initiative and go online and find the neareast GPRC or state hub. You love to talk about vaccine snobs, well im seeing GP snobs which is unecessary, mainly due to confusing communication, people hear GP they think of needing to go to local doctors office, not an RC run by GPs.

Distribution (not supply) to all these small GP practices is inefficient (the problem, not supply) which is why its not working in some places and why mass vac should have been planned as primary mechanism from the start, it has worked brilliantly overseas and for testing.

So many easier options logistically that can better hit large numbers of people than using small GP practices. If the plan was better from start, and local locations better promoted from the start more of the doses we have would be in arms already.

For Pfizer the hubs are not short of takers, if Pfizer supplies start going to GPs and Pharmacies we are going to see the same distribution issues and more wastage. Just add more hubs and a.so pop up hubs as supply increases so there is consistency in where to go and efficiency in operations.

 

[jakeseven7]

That is a different issue, we have more than adequate supplies of AZ in country we make it here,

It’s still a supply issue. Which you said there was not.... There certainly is and I have to deal with it almost every day in our business. It’s not in the right place.

 

[Lynda2475]

ABC has updated all its charts again. The only show first/second dose breakdown for NSW, Vic, WA and Aged Care/Disability.

I do wonder if CovidLive are averaging the rates from the states that publish them and applying to those that dont, seems unlikely CovidLive would get acces to data that our national broadcaster cannot.

Tracking the vaccine: Half of Australians boosted with three doses

With children aged 5-11 joining the rollout on January 10, just over 94 per cent of the total population are now eligible for vaccination against COVID-19.

www.abc.net.au

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Covid live has described how they calculate the second doses for each jurisdiction in the National breakdown.

When I get home later I will post their method.

And they use scraping tools as part of the process and so ABC may not have the inhouse expertise to do so.

 

[Lynda2475]

It’s still a supply issue

No its a locwl distribution issue due to a poor plan for and/or wrong people managing that distribution.

Distribution domestically is entirely within our control. Whereas we cant force Pfizer to manufacture and supply faster.

There is heaps AZ supply there is limited Pfizer supply. Pfizer is being efficiently deployed via hubs, AZ is being shuffled around (or waiting to be) in small volumes which is inefficient.

 

[Lynda2475]

Covid live has described how they calculate the second doses for each jurisdiction in the National breakdown.

So they are calculating it vs posting officially published numbers.

We need feds to publish official breakdown for GP channel and to force all states to provide official breakdown. Medicare should have all the data.

 

[jakeseven7]

No its a locwl distribution issue due to a poor plan for and/or wrong people managing that distribution.

Distribution domestically is entirely within our control. Whereas we cant force Pfizer to manufacture and supply faster.

There is heaps AZ supply there is limited Pfizer supply. Pfizer is being efficiently deployed via hubs, AZ is being shuffled around (or waiting to be) in small volumes which is inefficient.

Let’s just leave it there.... your opinion is your own and clearly what you think is appropriate for your assessment of that you think is happening from your opinion and perspective - We are more on the coal face dealing with the stakeholders in the rollout and thus use different launguage from our perspective.

 

[Batterytraveller]

The pharmac_ channel would be excellent too. I look forward to it being added. I am getting my flu vaccine at one tomorrow, just as I now have done so for many years.

Japan has been adding ambos and dentists to the list of people who can give out vaccines as apparently they have 28 million Pfizer doses in storage that they haven’t been able to administer and some are in danger of expiring.

 

[Batterytraveller]

My numbers were a bit off, a couple of weeks ago Japan had only managed to use 15% of it’s 28 million dose stockpile.

Unused COVID-19 shots piling up in Japan amid slow rollout

Japan imported 28 million doses of Pfizer Inc.'s COVID-19 vaccine through late April, but has so far used only 15% of the stockpile, with the remaining 24 million doses sitting in freezers.

www.japantimes.co.jp

More channels is good though.

https://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0007429394

 

[jakeseven7]

Melbourne mass vaccination centres completely rammed, let’s hope for another record today.

Are the other states seeing a big uplift too?

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Victoria breaks coronavirus testing and vaccination record as thousands flock to vaccination centres​

All new Victorian cases linked to current outbreak, 3,000 close contacts in quarantine

Victoria's Health Minister Martin Foley says five new cases are all linked to the current outbreak, after a record number of tests were conducted in the past 24 hours.

www.abc.net.au

 

[jase05]

Are the other states seeing a big uplift too?

Our main centres are inundated and not taking walk ups currently. SA has opened it up so that all in regional areas over 16 can book and we are in regional by about 1km so my wife booked today. She searched several places for herself with most booked until mid June but found a spot at Mt Barker this arvo so we are going to go for a drive up there after she finishes work

 

[Flying mermaid]

Melbourne mass vaccination centres completely rammed, let’s hope for another record today.

Are the other states seeing a big uplift too?

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Victoria breaks coronavirus testing and vaccination record as thousands flock to vaccination centres​

All new Victorian cases linked to current outbreak, 3,000 close contacts in quarantine

Victoria's Health Minister Martin Foley says five new cases are all linked to the current outbreak, after a record number of tests were conducted in the past 24 hours.

www.abc.net.au

Apparently Calvary which is doing ACT’s AZ vaccination is booked out for 4 weeks. They are thinking of running at weekends. (!).

however I just checked the respiratory centre and it is quite amusing.

Clinic A. Next appointment in 3 weeks
Clinic B. Next appointment in 8 days
Clinics C,D,E have appointments tomorrow

do people not scroll down and just book the first one they see?