Australian Reports of the Virus Spread

[flyingfan]

The PM said “as mandatory as possible”......with as much feeling as we all must get the Covidsafe app, and a litany of other examples.

And like the app, this should lead to some interesting discussion / debates / rules / laws about whether governments, businesses etc can or should make it a condition of entry. How would you (in a general sense) feel if a restaurant or airline refused you entry because you weren't vaccinated? On the flip side, would you be comfortable flying / eating somewhere with people that weren't vaccinated?

Assuming of course the vaccine is safe, effective and a million other things. I think of the bit in the movie Contagion where people have wristbands to prove their vaccination status.

 

[Lynda2475]

Scomo has said that vaccination will be free - this will go a long way to help uptake. I've spent a fortune on vaccinations over my adult life (for travel and because my Mum has compromised immune system). Once it is proven safe and effective I hope the overwhelming majority of people do the right thing and get jabbed so we can get some normality back.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Available early next year!! woo hoo!!

 

[Lynda2475]

Edit: I was just reading an article which indicated Qld just got to 4 weeks of no community transmission today (18 August). But it looks like over at least 70 days, so perhaps poor journalism.

No there was community transmission from the 3 shoplifters returning from Melbourne to that guy and his health care worker wife who dined in the same restaurant and that was about a month ago now. In Qld anything that is not an international arrival is community transmission.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Vic graphs based on 7 days of average new cases updated to include data as at 19 Aug.. By this measure cases have roughly halved over the last fortnight.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

No there was community transmission from the 3 shoplifters returning from Melbourne to that guy and his health care worker wife who dined in the same restaurant and that was about a month ago now. In Qld anything that is not an international arrival is community transmission.

Well it’s still poor journalism because that was less than 4 weeks ago - the restaurant transmission was 22 or 23 July. Today or tomorrow would be four weeks.

If Qld are going to use local transmission As meaning community transmission, then perhaps NSW had zero local cases maybe less than ten times and non consecutive and Victoria maybe less than five timeS and non consecutive.

 

[NM]

Available early next year!! woo hoo!!

only IF it proves to be safe and effective. Let's not pop the Kurg yet.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Vic graphs based on 7 days of average new cases updated to include data as at 19 Aug.. By this measure cases have roughly halved over the last fortnight.

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The other good news is that Vic active cases are decreasing too. I’m not sure about location, but hopefully decreases in regional Vic as well.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

only IF it proves to be safe and effective. Let's not pop the Kurg yet.

Or even the the Meot or Billonger

 

[p--and--t]

only IF it proves to be safe and effective. Let's not pop the Kurg yet.

...and given the time frame for testing, the only thing they will be able to say with reasonable confidence is that "on average in an average person (does this exist) it seems to be effective in x% of people for y period of time".

The time it takes for the less obvious side effects to come out can be many years and not everyone's body will react to the vaccine the same way.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The other good news is that Vic active cases are decreasing too. I’m not sure about location, but hopefully decreases in regional Vic as well.

Yes regional Vic is on the decline (today's data by LGA not out yet)

 

[MEL_Traveller]

only IF it proves to be safe and effective. Let's not pop the Kurg yet.

C'mon! What more do we need? The researchers are extremely confident. Governments around the world are extremely confident. Deals have been made to secure/buy/produce. We're given a date 'early next year'. Even Australian researchers working on Phase II and III say their vaccines are completely safe to be used right now in places like aged care. I'll book my award seats now... the doubters can hold off

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Yes regional Vic is on the decline (today's data by LGA not out yet)

Terrific, with actives cases going down, it will mean Stage 3 (regional) and Stage 4 (Melb) seems to be bring the necessary outcomes.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Tas is having a press conference at 2pm......unusual, no? Bad news?

in SA, Premier not budging.

SA Premier stands by decision to allow 300 international students to return to Adelaide

South Australia's Premier says the state can't afford "to shoot itself in the foot" economically during the coronavirus pandemic by not allowing 300 international students to return to Adelaide.

It will happen from next month under a pilot scheme but has been met with criticism.

Many South Australians argue it shouldn't be allowed while there is still a hard border closure with Victoria.

The international students will have to quarantine in a hotel at their own expense and pay for their flights to Australia.

Premier Steven Marshall says the move will help prop up the state economically.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Things getting prickly in NSW.....note to NSW Government.....you can make it mandatory on public transport, just create a new CHO order.

As a bus strike looms in NSW, the state's transport minister is pushing drivers to understand why they can't give them what they want.
NSW Transport Minister Andrew Constance reminded Sydney bus drivers, promising to strike for 48 hours next week unless the state government moves to enforce mask wearing on public transport, that they don’t have the power to force people to do so.
“The union I would hope today will understand we don’t have the advice and I explained it to them when I met with them yesterday, to fine people or to deny people a service because they haven’t got a mask on,” Mr Constance told Today.
“We have got the advice to encourage people and ask people to wear them and I think the commuters are responding and that’s what we continue to see every day.”
The NSW Rail, Tram and Bus Union (RTBU) sent a letter to Premier Gladys Berejiklian this week, promising to stop work for 48 hours from next Monday unless the coronavirus measures are enforced.

Perhaps the CHO will make new orders in a timely fashion on Sunday lol

 

[lovetravellingoz]

NSW Health
@NSWHealth
7 new cases of #COVID19 were diagnosed in the 24 hours to 8pm last night, bringing the total number of cases in NSW to 3,777. Of the 7 new cases reported: •2 are returned travellers in hotel quarantine – one from overseas and one from Victoria •5 are locally acquired

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1295891543362949121

 

[drron]

only IF it proves to be safe and effective. Let's not pop the Kurg yet.

I'd rather pop the Krug.And on an SQ plane as well.

 

[jakeseven7]

NSW community transmission continues, calls for Western and South-Western residents to come forward for testing

NSW has recorded seven new coronavirus cases overnight, after close to 20,000 tests were recorded.

"NSW is doing okay but we need all of us to be vigilant," Premier Gladys Berejiklian, thanking the 19,414 people who came forward for testing during the reporting period and repeating her call for people in western and south-west Sydney to come forward for testing amid fears of growing undetected community transmission in the area.

Five cases were locally acquired in the community: one is a south-west Sydney person who is a close contact of a previously reported case which is currently under investigation, one is a person in south-west Sydney whose case is also currently under investigation and another case is a household contact of this person, and then the remaining two cases are unknown sources.

As the day unfolded: Victoria records 216 new COVID-19 cases as free Oxford vaccine deal sealed by Morrison government; Australian death toll jumps to 450

Every Australian will receive a free dose of a coronavirus vaccine if trials prove successful under a deal procured by the federal government.

www.smh.com.au

 

[jb747]

The other good news is that Vic active cases are decreasing too. I’m not sure about location, but hopefully decreases in regional Vic as well.

CovidVictoria

A live and interactive map of confirmed/active coronavirus (COVID-19) cases in Victoria, grouped by Local Government Area (LGA).

covidvictoria.com

It shows a map and details changes.

There does seem to be some discussion about whether some of the regional cases are actually in Melbourne, with the location being assigned based on a persons recorded address. In other words, some of the regional cases may not have been in the regions at all.

Another good site for an overall picture is here: Coronavirus (COVID-19) in Australia | Data

Looking at some of the pictures that have been posted here, it looks to me as if some of the 'safe' states have set themselves up for a return, with no distancing happening at all. I wonder if the border closures around Victoria (and NSW) will ultimately be reversed.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Nsw total community transmission since before Crossroads is 19, of which 12 are in the last 14 days and 7 are older than 14 days, plus 2 under investigation.

also in the media update...

A case has been confirmed since the reporting period, in a patient who attended Liverpool Hospital. Close contacts have been identified and advised to isolate for 14 days, get tested for COVID-19 and monitor for symptoms. Deep cleaning has occurred in areas where the outpatient received care and additional precautionary measures have been taken. This includes COVID-19 testing for staff who worked on the same wards the patient received care when they were infectious. Links to other cases are being investigated.