Another Celeb denied access to Qantas Lounge [Dress code]

[KSC]

Eva Marie denied access to Qantas Business Lounge, seems she is wearing trackies.
Same stuff I wear into Qantas lounge when flying international.
Is there more to ok this or lounge dragon antics ?

Former WWE star Eva Marie stopped from boarding business class lounge

Former WWE star Eva Marie was travelling with her husband from Australia but was barred from entering a business class lounge of Qantas.

www.mediareferee.com

 

[mannej]

There is a difference in dress standard for the domestic lounge networks and international lounges.

 

[GoldCanyon340]

I've seen worse.

 

[Hillbilly64]

She's got a point. If you're going to let someone in in training shorts (not even dress shorts) then you can hardly pull someoneelse up because of your 'dress code'. (Maybe it was because her clothes clashed with their decor.)

FWIW - Mr Hillbilly is a chronic shorts and thongs wearer, and has had no trouble in both SYD and BNE international qantas lounges in that attire.

 

[woodborer]

Probably got pinged on the "Head to Toe" gymwear rule.

You might get away with part gymwear.

https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/the-qantas-club/dress-guidelines.html

 

[RichardMEL]

yawn here we go again.

the dress code is just such a bad bad idea. Seems good on paper from the marketing types I bet to "create an appropriate atmosphere" and the like, but in practice it's so badly enforced to make it a waste of time.

A few days ago in BNE there were so many shorts and thongs (appropriate in the BNE weather mind you) in the dom J lounge it made a mockery of the whole thing. I just noticed and laughed to myself. Frankly I wonder why anyone gets on a plane in thongs at all, but that's more a safety thing I guess.. but I digress.

And yeah, I have seen worse (dirty, ripped etc) in the dom lounges with dress codes to underscore how stupid the policy is. Those are the people they should focus on (dirty clothes specially, bare feet on tapes etc) than worrying about someone in trakkies or open toe sandals etc. *shrug*

 

[opusman]

What happened to celebs being people you've actually heard of?

 

[Daver6]

What happened to celebs being people you've actually heard of?

They delibrately dress to be denied access, that increasing their brand awareness. Now both you and I are aware of this person, whereas previously we weren't.

 

[samh004]

I believe in the dress code – and dress appropriately, but as she points out, so does she – and was treated different to her husband in similar active wear. Ultimately, this is Qantas' issue, they need to police both genders the same and they don't.

The ball will be in their court now to see if they just build a wall like they did with the Veronicas or actually enter into dialogue and change – in either direction... they could say that her husband was accidentally allowed in and come down harder on men in the future. But it has to be consistent.

What happened to celebs being people you've actually heard of?

When I first looked up the name (before clicking the link) I thought we were talking about 95-year old Eva Marie Saint.

They delibrately dress to be denied access, that increasing their brand awareness. Now both you and I are aware of this person, whereas previously we weren't.

I don't feel she's dressing just to create a story, or at least not one of being denied access to a lounge. Certainly, she wants brand awareness, as both herself and husband are promoting her brand. You wouldn't wear someone else's label.

 

[RooFlyer]

I believe in the dress code – and dress appropriately, but as she points out, so does she – and was treated different to her husband in similar active wear.

Not so similar, I think. She was in her-own-design gym ware. He was in shorts and t-shirt. One for the gym, one casual attire - one not allowed by the rules, one permitted. Even if the fella's clobber should have been dis-allowed, Qantas still got it right with her.

Being a cynical old cove, I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberate (at least in her case) and she got exactly what she may have wanted.

 

[Pushka]

I believe in the dress code – and dress appropriately, but as she points out, so does she – and was treated different to her husband in similar active wear. Ultimately, this is Qantas' issue, they need to police both genders the same and they don't.

The ball will be in their court now to see if they just build a wall like they did with the Veronicas or actually enter into dialogue and change – in either direction... they could say that her husband was accidentally allowed in and come down harder on men in the future. But it has to be consistent.

When I first looked up the name (before clicking the link) I thought we were talking about 95-year old Eva Marie Saint.

I don't feel she's dressing just to create a story, or at least not one of being denied access to a lounge. Certainly, she wants brand awareness, as both herself and husband are promoting her brand. You wouldn't wear someone else's label.

That cuts both ways though so be careful what you wish for. Women can dress in sleeveless tops but can men get access in singlets coz really they are the same thing.

 

[samh004]

Not so similar, I think. She was in her-own-design gym ware. He was in shorts and t-shirt. One for the gym, one casual attire - one not allowed by the rules, one permitted. Even if the fella's clobber should have been dis-allowed, Qantas still got it right with her.

You'll notice his shirt bears the same company name as hers. 'Ryderwear' vs 'R\\W' – clearly the same brand, presumably her brand. I'm not sure she would have got away with wearing what he was wearing into the lounge either (that t-shirt and short gym shorts). What he was wearing was clearly gym wear (her whole brand is gym wear) – not casual, so he should have been denied access as well, and I have a feeling men aren't policed nearly as much as women are into QF J lounges.

Dress guidelines | Qantas

Learn about our smart casual dress guidelines when when enjoying our lounges and see what clothing and footwear are appropriate to wear.

www.qantas.com

Head-to-toe gym wear
Revealing, unclean or torn clothing

When a guy sits down in gym shorts, they become very revealing...

That cuts both ways though so be careful what you wish for. Women can dress in sleeveless tops but can men get access in singlets coz really they are the same thing.

I have no problem with them enforcing the rules evenly. I treat air travel and lounge access as a chance to dress well. Qantas clearly wants to encourage that too in their premium lounges, but unevenly enforces their own guidelines.

Technically the guidelines don't mention/exclude singlets though? I guess there's an image of what could be a singlet, but at the same time, they specifically mention board shorts only. Beachwear could include sunglasses and a hat. In many places it's polite to take your hat off inside, but this doesn't always happen, I've seen people wearing hats in a J lounge before...

I feel their guidelines are deliberately vague, but this doesn't help them as this then leads to uneven policing.

 

[p--and--t]

What happened to celebs being people you've actually heard of?

perhaps the thread should be re-labelled celeb wannabe or DYKWIA

 

[Rich]

They delibrately dress to be denied access, that increasing their brand awareness. Now both you and I are aware of this person, whereas previously we weren't.

Don't worry, you will soon forget.

I am not sure she deliberately dressed to be denied access, but perhaps she should have encouraged them to have a second look at her husband because he didn't look the best. (I am no fine dresser, but I would not wear those shorts anywhere but a gym.)

The other problem for her is that her clothes also looked a bit like PJs / Wiggles costume, so she stood out.

 

[samh004]

perhaps the thread should be re-labelled celeb wannabe or DYKWIA

I had a look at what celebrity meant after my post, "a famous person, especially in entertainment or sport". Her Instagram has 4.2M followers. I guess she fits the word.

It also appears she doesn't own Ryderwear, she's just an ambassador, so likely has to wear their gear whenever in public. They're an Australian company though.

 

[eastwest101]

According to media sources from the twitter feed - this may have been the clothes in question?



Note how the photo of the male figure is cropped.....

Her husband will be in for a shock if he tries to enter an Onsen in Japan as well from what I am led to believe.

If so - she probably got caught in the "head to toe" part of the gymwear rules, looks like more shades of grey pain coming for Qantas about differeing clothing rules and standards, especially with the recent fashion trend where they are trying to breakdown the divisions between fashion and "activeware" (which is just really give the appearance similar to the SUV craze where people want to appear like they have just come down off the logging track/mountain/cliff/gym/running track and come straight to the airport.)

 

[GoldCanyon340]

If how's she's dressed is because of her business, therefore allowing lounge access, then I look forward to being in MEL Dom J on the next Australian tour of Heather Renee Sweet.

 

[amaroo]

Saw this and thought of this...

"Sweatpants are a sign of defeat. You lost control of your life so you bought some sweatpants."

Karl Lagerfeld

 

[Revenge]

Qantas was right, but dress codes are kind of outdated in this day and age... they are just asking for trouble with this really.

 

[Ewing]

Her husband will be in for a shock if he tries to enter an Onsen in Japan as well from what I am led to believe.

As someone with full sleeve tattoos on both arms, people constantly bring up that "Oh, but you'll never be able to enter an onsen".

Honestly could not care less, and he's probably the same.