A tale of two children (in J)

[Deleted member 29185]

Trainee empty nester here! The only problem I have is that two of the said kids don't yet realise that for me to become an empty nester, they actually need to leave the nest! I debated buying a cattle prod.

 

[pgsdiver]

Trainee empty nester here! The only problem I have is that two of the said kids don't yet realise that for me to become an empty nester, they actually need to leave the nest! I debated buying a cattle prod.

Do what a mate of mine did - he made the house clothing optional. Took them a month - slow learners obviously.

 

[mrsterryn]

Saying earlier in this thread "I don't travel with children " appears to have jinxed myself
It looks like son , Dil and (then ) 16 months old grandson will be travelling with us to London.
Knowing how people view babies (confession myself included ) debate is now do we all go in premium economy
Do we put them in economy and us in first (my favourite though I think son might object )
Or all of us in business and wear the looks ?

 

[Flying mermaid]

Saying earlier in this thread "I don't travel with children " appears to have jinxed myself
It looks like son , Dil and (then ) 16 months old grandson will be travelling with us to London.
Knowing how people view babies (confession myself included ) debate is now do we all go in premium economy
Do we put them in economy and us in first (my favourite though I think son might object )
Or all of us in business and wear the looks ?

All in business - you can’t let this nonsense worry you

 

[mrsterryn]

All in business - you can’t let this nonsense worry you

Son wasn't impressed with economy either lol

 

[tgh]

It had already been a long day and 2/3 the night, boarding was late and chaotic, and when we find our seats there is a couple with a baby in the front row.
That nearly finished us...
It was therefore , a great pleasure to chat to the caring couple with their happy baby when disembarking , and commend them on doing a great job.

 

[Pushka]

See I'm going to go the other way. I can think of virtually no examples of seeing kids misbehave in a lounge. But this goes into something larger in society.

People without kids typically have lower tolerance for kids. In some cases just the mere knowledge that a child is present is enough to send some people into a rage, even if the child is quite, although most of the time it's just evil glares.

So me as a parent, seeing behaviors which are fairly normal for kids is probably more likely not to notice what that family is doing than someone who is either childless, or now has grown up kids (as I've also noticed rose tinted glasses kicks in, they remember all the great times and forget the times their own kids acted like little (censored)).

So this is not to say that kids never misbehave, but perhaps more to the fact that how much that misbehaving annoys you depends on how much time you've recently spent with kids.

I’ve just seen your reply. I’m. A little slow. Given I’ve experienced a child who just didn’t travel well, I don’t see how you can dismiss what I posted as “not understanding” what a parent goes through. The behaviour I see in the QP in Singapore had nothing to do with usual kid behaviour and everything to do with parents who didn’t give a damn what their kids do to disrupt others with their behaviour. I try avoid Singapore now these days although a new dedicated lounge might assist later this year.

All in business - you can’t let this nonsense worry you

I totally sympathise with parents with a toddler who doesn’t travel well - what I can’t abide is parents who just let their child do whatever they want while they chill out and converse amongst themselves, enjoying their alcohol, while their kids climb over seats, run around the aisles etc etc. A child in their own right isn’t the issue.

 

[Flying mermaid]

I totally sympathise with parents with a toddler who doesn’t travel well - what I can’t abide is parents who just let their child do whatever they want while they chill out and converse amongst themselves, enjoying their alcohol, while their kids climb over seats, run around the aisles etc etc. A child in their own right isn’t the issue.

I came to the conclusion years ago that some people are just lazy. Discipline takes effort, so much easier to just let them do whatever they like .

 

[Noah Count]

Seems like this thread has risen again, I have stayed out of it as some of my earlier opinions/comments have since been deleted and I was warned to settle down. I am quite opinionated when it comes to children in J an F and have no issues with children in J or F. @mrsterryn I agree with FM all go in J

 

[33kft]

The only one thing I'd like to add to this discussion (as it first surfaced some time back and I've been flying with our young one for some time now) is that after 20-odd months of flying with our little one in J, despite the fairly large split in opinion in this thread, I've found that comfortably 100% of people we've encountered to date have been absolutely wonderful. In fact, what has surprised me most is how much positivity and comraderie we get. I was prepared for some amount of cold shoulders and passive aggressiveness which I would have understood given the challenge of being cooped up with strangers for long periods of time, but what I have found is the exact opposite - generosity and positivity well beyond my expectations, in the lounge and onboard.

I'll certainly be paying it forward perpetually.

 

[mrsterryn]

I do have to say my son (aka the father of the toddler ) would be very unimpressed to asked to make sure the children are quiet as per the original post. Unfortunately I think he would be rather sharp in his reply nowhere near as polite as the OP
I think nowadays more children are flying premium cabins.
We certainly have had quite a few children in first and business
(No son is not getting first )

 

[Noah Count]

In my opinion I have no care if children are in J or F cabin be it points or revenue. MrsM and MissM travel twice a year in international J or F be it Asia, the US or EU/UK and have done so for the past 8-10 years on points and revenue. I am trying to refrain as I will get excitable and opinionated quite quickly.

 

[Pushka]

In my opinion I have no care if children are in J or F cabin be it points or revenue. MrsM and MissM travel twice a year in international J or F be it Asia, the US or EU/UK and have done so for the past 8-10 years on points and revenue. I am trying to refrain as I will get excitable and opinionated quite quickly.

I’m not sure that any recent posts should make you excitable. Pretty much all are in agreement.

 

[p--and--t]

At the distinct risk of stepping on the tail of a sleeping tiger...

When I read some of the previous posts about "Creating children's sections on aircraft.... I just think back to how effective smoking and non-smoking sections were years ago - NOT!!!

 

[Katie]

Saying earlier in this thread "I don't travel with children " appears to have jinxed myself
It looks like son , Dil and (then ) 16 months old grandson will be travelling with us to London.
Knowing how people view babies (confession myself included ) debate is now do we all go in premium economy
Do we put them in economy and us in first (my favourite though I think son might object )
Or all of us in business and wear the looks ?

We did our first intl trip with Little Miss in 2008 when she was ~18 mths. No Y+ on QF then, didn’t know about AFF, etc.
We flew Y. BNE-SIN-LHR.
Mr Katie slept most of BNE-SIN after getting ill from the family dinner the night before (Little Miss also broke out in some kind of spots in the middle of the night, and I was hrateful for the sneaky phenergan I had purchased - and tested her on - as the anithistamine calmed the spots down, and the after hours doctor agreed with giving it to her. She walked most of the way to SIN, mopped the galley floor, etc.

SIN-LHR we had three seats in Y. I would choose Y with a toddler over Y+ In a heartbeat. I don’t think any Y+ has armrests that raise up like in Y - the wee girl could stretch out between us and she was comfortable enough. We bought the seat for her, even though she could have been on our laps. That helped our luggage allowance, with a suitcase and a stroller for her.

J would be great - will grandson get his own seat or be on laps?

 

[Noah Count]

At the distinct risk of stepping on the tail of a sleeping tiger...

When I read some of the previous posts about "Creating children's sections on aircraft.... I just think back to how effective smoking and non-smoking sections were years ago - NOT!!!

I was on these type of flights in the 1970’s also when the IFE was a movie projected onto the bulkheads

.....Little Miss also broke out in some kind of spots in the middle of the night, and I was hrateful for the sneaky phenergan I had purchased - and tested her on - as the anithistamine calmed the spots down.....

My sister broke out in spots on our 1976 flight when we were travelling/ moving to Scotland, turned out to to be chickenpox. From memory and what my parents told us years later was that they brushed her fringe/ hair down over her face. Not sure if she she infected others or if chickenpox still exists.

 

[mrsterryn]

We did our first intl trip with Little Miss in 2008 when she was ~18 mths. No Y+ on QF then, didn’t know about AFF, etc.
We flew Y. BNE-SIN-LHR.
Mr Katie slept most of BNE-SIN after getting ill from the family dinner the night before (Little Miss also broke out in some kind of spots in the middle of the night, and I was hrateful for the sneaky phenergan I had purchased - and tested her on - as the anithistamine calmed the spots down, and the after hours doctor agreed with giving it to her. She walked most of the way to SIN, mopped the galley floor, etc.

SIN-LHR we had three seats in Y. I would choose Y with a toddler over Y+ In a heartbeat. I don’t think any Y+ has armrests that raise up like in Y - the wee girl could stretch out between us and she was comfortable enough. We bought the seat for her, even though she could have been on our laps. That helped our luggage allowance, with a suitcase and a stroller for her.

J would be great - will grandson get his own seat or be on laps?

In J he would probable share with one of his parents .
Still working out what they (the parents ) want to do
As you say at least in economy one can stretch over the seats .

 

[Pushka]

I was on these type of flights in the 1970’s also when the IFE was a movie projected onto the bulkheads

My sister broke out in spots on our 1976 flight when we were travelling/ moving to Scotland, turned out to to be chickenpox. From memory and what my parents told us years later was that they brushed her fringe/ hair down over her face. Not sure if she she infected others or if chickenpox still exists.

We used to have chicken pox parties when the kids were young. How things change.

 

[paragjain]

I have a question for the gurus here - for booking Award Seats for kids (4-10 yr olds), do we usually book an Adult ticket only? Or some award programs are better in this regard & allow cheaper points to be used?

As some airline tickets have cheaper pricing for kids... so what's the best thing to do - Buy or Redeem?

 

[JohnK]

Seems like this thread has risen again, I have stayed out of it as some of my earlier opinions/comments have since been deleted and I was warned to settle down. I am quite opinionated when it comes to children in J an F and have no issues with children in J or F. @mrsterryn I agree with FM all go in J

You haven't met my daughter.