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Lurker here - decided to finally join to share some stories, tips, and reviews related to my recent trip to Russia (mid-Dec to mid-Jan) :)

First off, my goal was not so much to be a tourist for a month, but to live in Russia for a month. That meant eating at canteens in St Petersburg, taking trains third class, and foregoing the Tretyakov gallery to explore grocery stores. What surprised me the most about the nine cities I went to is how different each was - different street structure, cuisine, culture.

Getting there: Melb -> HK (Virgin), 4 day 'stopover' to take a look around HK and Macau, HK -> Vladivostok (Aeroflot). I'd snagged a end-of-financial-year Virgin deal for Melb-HK return. In retrospect, locking in my Australian exit and return flights greatly reduced the flexibility of my plans. Macau was charming: it was around the time of the anniversary of its handover, and the festive atmosphere was enjoyable.

Vladivostok: The city can be walked, but stay in the southern side - the north is mainly industrial sites. The ocean view is stunning. It's got a rich naval history and is a city of military glory.
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Kazan: Vladivostok -> Moscow (Aeroflot), Moscow -> Kazan (overnight train). My thoughts on Aeroflot are at the end of this post. The train was one of the newer ones, so even third class was comfortable, with individual charging points. The bunks might be more uncomfortable for taller people, though. Kazan's old Tatar settlement looked magical, especially with the snow. I think one day is enough to see the village, the kremlin, a few museums, and try the local specialities (like chak-chak, triangles, and horse meat).

St Petersburg: Kazan -> Moscow (overnight train), Moscow to Petersburg (high-speed Sapsan train). The Sapsan was a smooth ride with a good view of the countryside. Petersburg was very festive around that time. Go for walks along the rivers at night and watch the decorative lights glitter over the water and ice.

Vyborg: St Petersburg -> Vyborg (electric train). It's about a two hour ride from Petersburg, so perfect for a day trip. It's a cosy town with a rich Finnish-Swedish-Russian heritage. The medieval fortress and library are must-visits. Also a city of military glory.

(Veliky) Novgorod: St Petersburg -> Novgorod (electric train). Another day trip location, Novgorod is three hours away. Lots to explore here, especially the kremlin and the Cathedral of St Sophia. It's Russia's oldest city; if memory serves, in the country's early history the two main areas were the principality of Kiev and the Republic of Novgorod. A city of military glory (and very proud of it).

Moscow: St Petersburg -> Moscow (marshrutka). I took an overnight bus to Moscow from Petersburg. It was relatively cheap but, as one would expect, quite uncomfortable. Still, it's a very Russian experience. I spent New Year's and Russian Christmas (Jan 7) in Moscow, with my trip to Vladikavkaz in between. Didn't have the courage to spend New Year's Eve on Red Square, but in retrospective, it would probably have been worth the wait (you have to get there early) and the crowds because watching from the second-best place, the bridge, wasn't very eventful. Christmas was a much smaller celebration; I didn't notice much difference except there seemed to be more kissing couples.

Dmitrov: Moscow -> Dmitrov (train). A day trip destination from Moscow. Apart from the churches, it's not too spectacular, but it has its quirks and you do get to see the Moscow canal. A city of military glory.

Vladikavkaz, Beslan, Fiagdon (Republic of North Ossetia-Alania): Moscow -> Vladikavkaz (Aeroflot). Smarttraveller advises "Do not travel" for this region, and while caution should be exercised, I personally think North Ossetia is a doable destination. Vladikavkaz... ah, how can I put it into words? It's a completely different lifestyle to the big cities and is much less developed, but with the mountain view and the local beer and the quiet pride (also a city of military glory) and the prevalence of the Ossetian language and the driving without seat-belts, I fell in love so hard I probably broke both legs.

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The view from Vladikavkaz's main pedestrian street. The architecture along the street resembles St Petersburg's. (In other parts of the city, the buildings were much more run-down and appeared more Asian in style.)

It's a short taxi ride from Vladikavkaz to Beslan to see the School #1 memorial to the 2004 terrorist attack (where the children were held hostage in the gym for days). If you're organised enough, you can get there from the airport, which is actually located in Beslan. If you visit Beslan with a Yandex/Uber ride, be sure you know how to get back - ask your driver to wait or know how to phone for a taxi, because you'd be very lucky to find a Yandex driver there. And have a spare bottle of water handy.

From Beslan I took a taxi into the mountains, to Fiagdon. I'd recommend even if you're not an outdoorsy tourist. The air is sweet, the water clear and drinkable, and the views unforgettable. I had shashlyk there with the driver.
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Fiagdon monastery.

Vladikavkaz to Moscow, train ride: an adventure in itself, 37 hours on one of the old trains. The toilet can't be used 20-30 minutes before and after stations because the waste is dribbled onto the track, and it flooded periodically to boot. There's only one 50 V power point for six people, so put your phone aside and look out the window. The wintry countryside is captivating. (For some reason, the people in my carriage preferred to sleep during the day as well.) Ossetians (and other ethnic minorities like Central Asians) seemed to be much more patient with my rudimentary Russian than ethnic Russians.

Yekaterinburg: Moscow <-> Yekaterinburg (Nordwind/Pegas Fly). Nordwind gives a discount if you book round trip with them, and this trip was nearly half the price of what it would've been with Aeroflot. If you get a seat at the front you can also watch the flight attendants work, which is quite interesting. Yekaterinburg has culture (many museums and theatres), history (it was founded by Peter the Great to service Russia's industrial needs, and is also where the last Romanov family was killed), and nature. A short drive away is the Europe-Asia border.

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On Aeroflot: I'd read some negative reviews and went in thinking it'd just be a way to get from A to B. But on all four of my flights with them, all economy, I found the service exceptional. The flight attendants speak English. All were polite; some were kind and some were kind in a Russian way, but even the surlier ones were professional and efficient. The food was enjoyable with a Russian twist. Entertainment was only available on the longer flights and included a range of Russian and international offerings. Personally, Aeroflot has surpassed Qantas as my favourite airline.

The only downside, from an Australian point of view where we're geographically distant from Russia and most other SkyTeam airlines, is the frequent flyer program. There is no points + pay option for redeeming points. Aeroflot Bonus's partners are mostly Russian companies, so there are also few opportunities to boost your balance.

On intercity transport: overnight train is a convenient and affordable option to get from A to B, and you save on accommodation costs. BlaBlaCar and marshrutka are even more affordable, but also a lot less comfortable. There are different airlines you can consider if flying, but there are relatively few direct flights between non-Moscow cities (Sheremetyevo will haunt my dreams, I'm sure). Aeroflot is the flag carrier and best option for safety and comfort. I found booking Nordwind tickets straightforward, and the service on the flights (operated by Pegas Fly) was good, though not all attendants could speak English. S7 and Pobeda are the lowest-cost ones. Ural (doesn't accept foreign credit cards) and Aurora mainly service Siberia and the Far East.

On intra-city transport: apart from Moscow, the cities I visited didn't have a unified ticketing card system like myki/Opal. For buses and trams, there'll be a conductor you pay to and they'll go to you. I don't remember each city's prices but just have 50 rubles handy.

On the language barrier: it was surprising how few people spoke English. Know some basic Russian (not just phrases but also basic grammar and common adverbs of time), especially if you're staying in hostels and going to cities outside of Moscow and St Petersburg. Do not expect museum attendants/cashiers to speak English - not even the ones at Moscow's Kremlin could. I listened hard for words I could understand, picked up a few phrases along the way, and copied locals - and got by.

Hope you found that interesting, and feel free to ask any questions! Hardly an expert but having planned this whirlwind of a trip by myself, I can probably provide advice for any other first-time visitors to Russia.
 
Best 'first post' I can remember :).

Are you going to give us more detail about the places?

I love Russia and am contemplating visiting Vladivostok this time next year. Looks like you had brilliant weather there - do you know if that's typical? Or is it normally 'frozen over'? Love to hear more about it.
 
Very good first post!

And rather brave of you to do those cities in lower travel classes and in winter!
 
Welcome aboard! Sounds like a fascinating trip. Were you travelling by yourself? Do you speak any other languages that may have helped with your Russian? A bit brave for me!
 
Great trip report. I was there a few years ago but was not as adventurous as you. I went from Moscow to St Petersburg by canal boat. You have whetted my appetite to go further in Russia.

Cheers
 
If I was going to Russia I’ve heard nightmares about their Visa process so I reckon more info on that would be helpful for others.
 
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Spectacular first post. You've got a lot to live up to now.

Thanks for sharing. Nice report.
 
I agree that this is the best first post I have read on AFF.Welcome and hope you stick around to give us some more adventures.
 
Thanks for the warm welcome, everyone.

Were you travelling by yourself? Do you speak any other languages that may have helped with your Russian? A bit brave for me!
Solo, yes. With a country this large and diverse it's convenient to have that flexibility. I don't speak any, but had had some exposure to Eastern European/Slavic languages before going.

If I was going to Russia I’ve heard nightmares about their Visa process so I reckon more info on that would be helpful for others.
Good point. This is the resource I used. It's quite comprehensive and I had no issues in the application process. I would add that one should take care when using a money order and make sure the recipient is exactly as required (this can be found on the consulate's website if you're sending to Sydney), and take the photo at a post office since they have templates that will make sure it fits the requirements.

Regarding the supplied cities and accommodation, in my experience it really doesn't matter. I listed three cities in the visa and invitation letter. In my trip I didn't end up staying at any of the hotels I'd mentioned, and went to a lot more places (including North Ossetia, a vast majority of which had until Nov 2018 been closed to foreigners), and had no issues upon exiting. Note that for some areas of entry into Chechnya an additional border pass is needed.

Just remember to get your visa registered within 7 days upon arrival. I would recommend booking at least one hotel stay within your first 7 days (as opposed to Airbnb-ing) or making sure you have a Russian friend who can help with that.

Are you going to give us more detail about the places?

I love Russia and am contemplating visiting Vladivostok this time next year. Looks like you had brilliant weather there - do you know if that's typical? Or is it normally 'frozen over'? Love to hear more about it.
Can't answer with certainty, but it looks like mid-Jan is about as cold as it gets. When I was there it was only around -4. The Amur Bay does freeze in winter. I saw some people ice-fishing on the way from the airport, and there was some ice at some of the northern beaches. At Sportivnaya embankment, which is the main place locals and tourists go, there was ice on the rocks when you look right down and the piers. But I think what matters most is the sunlight - the days were very clear with barely a cloud, but according to this it looks like I got lucky.

Are you planning this as part of a wider Russia trip?

Was worried the details would be too esoteric, so glad there are other Russia enthusiasts here! I mostly took note of the different types of establishments in each city and the kind of pride the residents had, and here are my observations. I'd be interested in any comments/amendments/additions anyone has.

Vladivostok: didn't actually realise it was a city of military glory; it seemed much more focused on its role in the Russo-Japanese War. Cuisine-wise, there's a very visible Asian, Central Asian, and Belorusian influence. (Occasionally felt like Melbourne, especially when I passed a hookah-and-sushi bar.) There are a lot of cardboard stalls on the sidewalks selling pirozhki, pyan-se, and coffee, which I didn't see anywhere else. Polite drivers.

Kazan: saw more textile shops here than elsewhere, which was interesting because I would've thought they'd be for headscarves but very few of the women wear them. The architecture is colourful. You can find a few references, including the main street's name, to Gabdulla Tukay, Tatarstan's national poet. He's "very, very beloved" by the people, according to one of the attendants at the Tukay museum, who was basically shining with pride as she gave me a personal tour despite my telling her that my Russian is extremely limited.

St Petersburg: lots of local pride. An interesting memory I have here is of a child throwing a tantrum and her grandmother saying: "Don't do that, this is Nevsky Prospekt!" A piece of graffiti I saw on the walls of the fortress had a love heart and "there is a city on the Neva..." written. Many stolovyye around.

Vyborg: you can see everything here: medieval fortress, Soviet apartments, modernist architecture; ice, water, mountains, forest. Again, didn't realise it was a city of military glory until later.

Novgorod: its development seems a bit odd and staggered - a McDonald's and plain white buildings greet you from the train station, and it takes a while to realise it's one of Russia's oldest cities. It takes a lot less time to learn that it's a city of military glory. The kremlin at sunset, sitting in a bright hill of snow, surrounded by trees and purple sky, is gorgeous, as is the Volkhov.

Moscow: on my train here from Vladikavkaz an Ossetian happily told me that "everything is allowed in Moscow!" Surprised that there were barely any stolovyye here since I'd have guessed there would've been many in Soviet times. Instead it's got an abundance of shokoladnitsy (anyone know why they're called that?)

Dmitrov: pretty Soviet-looking in terms of architecture. Not really a great place to walk around - the roads are hard to cross.

Vladikavkaz: quite a proud city, with its name found on murals and monuments. Benches along the river are painted in Ossetian colours, and at the centre there are large metal letters that say "I love Vladikavkaz" in Ossetian. As with Kazan, traces of their national poet, Kosta Khetagurov, can be seen here and there. The stray animals about and the predominance of men on the streets, some of whom seemed to be just standing there, were a bit unsettling. Didn't seem to be supermarkets as such, lots of independent produkty and bytovaya khimiya stores. Crazy drivers. Pirogi, shashlyk, beer, and lavash can be readily found. As can police stations; on the sidewalk ground there are often painted the direction and distance to the nearest station. It's clear they're still wary of the threat of terrorism. Security at the train station is tight.

Yekaterinburg: visitors often complain about the narrow streets and sidewalks. The sidewalks are narrow, and slippery to boot, but I think it adds to the city's historical feel. It holds on tight to its legacy within Russian history as the deathplace of the last Romanovs and the birthplace of Yeltsin. The architecture is varied, with some buildings looking very modern for a city of only 1.5 million. Honestly, Yekaterinburg to me is Russia's cultural capital (though of course I'd never say that in Petersburg!)

And ubiquitous throughout each city: churches, beauty salons, and dentists. There's no escaping the dentists.
 
Vladivostok: didn't actually realise it was a city of military glory; it seemed much more focused on its role in the Russo-Japanese War.

During the Cold War, Vladivostok was a 'closed city' and the base for the Soviet Pacific Fleet, so its kinda exotic for me.


Are you planning this as part of a wider Russia trip?

No. I'm planning a DONE4 and Vladivostok is handy as part of the Asian leg. I've been to Russia 3 times before - St P and Moscow a couple of years ago, and Irkutsk/Lake Baikal earlier this year. Was hoping to do Vlad, Novosibirsk/Tomsk this trip, but the flights to the latter aren't working out.

I'm dying to go to Kamchatka, but alas its too costly to be done properly (lots of helicopters!).

Oh, and @Pushka , don't be daunted by the visa - its OK once you know how to approach it and lots of help here to get you through :) . Ya just gotta go to St Petersburg, at least and more than cruise ship day trips ...
 
Great post!

I have Vladivostock and Kamchatka lined up for July '20. And, for @RooFlyer, don't get spooked by the Mi-8. It's the world's most-produced helo: Mil Mi-8 - Wikipedia.

Anything involving helos is costly. I'm looking forward to my rides in it.

A high school classmate of mine who was an Ansett B727 pilot amongst other things after that debacle, and who now lives a few streets away, was telling me how he was some sort of supervisor or navigator for a fleet of Russian helos going into Asia some years ago because the Russki pilots were not certified or didn't have enough English- something like that. Great tale that I need him to repeat to me.

I suspect they were Mi-8s or similar. I must have another coffee with him now that I'm locked away for Kamchatka and get a clearer viewpoint on Russian helos.

@RooFlyer may regret wimping out - the cost can only go up ;). He's already threatened not to read my TR :mad::eek::rolleyes::):D. Do it while you can, young man! :p
 
If I was going to Russia I’ve heard nightmares about their Visa process so I reckon more info on that would be helpful for others.

If you're going on an organised tour, it's no big deal. You'll be given a letter of invitation and a list of places where you're staying.

There is an online form to fill in from the Russian embassy in Canberra, which you then print and send in with your passport and a money order (no CCs accepted) with a self-addressed return satchel. Your local Aus Post will know exactly the best way to do it. The embassy says it takes 10 working days - and they use every minute of that - but no more IME.

Probably the biggest PITA is filling in the last 30 (not a typo...) countries you have visited with exact day/month/year of entry. I bet they don't check, but it is not worth taking risks with an unthinking bureaucracy.

Tip: after you fill in the form online, it says 'Submit'. Now, to me, 'Submit' indicated that it was going to be sent electronically. But the notes say that you must print the form, stick a passport photo to it, sign and date it and then send a hard copy to the embassy.

No, 'Submit' in this case simply means that you have completed the form and you are submitting it to be able to generate the .pdf to print it.
 
I've only visited St Petersburg and Moscow and while interesting i did find the Russian people in general to be the least pleasant that I have come across but I guess I wasn't that well predisposed to them before I visited Russia from some previous experiences and so maybe just confirmed what I already felt.. But I had few memorable, pleasant interactions unlike most other places...

But I may go back and explore the place a bit more, maybe the caucuses at some point, maybe the Trans-Siberia one day... Not all places you visit are necessarily for the people you bump into...

The visa process i recall was pretty straight forward when i did it, just bought one through Real Russia and they sent the letter and all...
 
If you're going on an organised tour, it's no big deal. You'll be given a letter of invitation and a list of places where you're staying.

There is an online form to fill in from the Russian embassy in Canberra, which you then print and send in with your passport and a money order (no CCs accepted) with a self-addressed return satchel. Your local Aus Post will know exactly the best way to do it. The embassy says it takes 10 working days - and they use every minute of that - but no more IME.

Probably the biggest PITA is filling in the last 30 (not a typo...) countries you have visited with exact day/month/year of entry. I bet they don't check, but it is not worth taking risks with an unthinking bureaucracy.

Tip: after you fill in the form online, it says 'Submit'. Now, to me, 'Submit' indicated that it was going to be sent electronically. But the notes say that you must print the form, stick a passport photo to it, sign and date it and then send a hard copy to the embassy.

No, 'Submit' in this case simply means that you have completed the form and you are submitting it to be able to generate the .pdf to print it.

I've only visited St Petersburg and Moscow and while interesting i did find the Russian people in general to be the least pleasant that I have come across but I guess I wasn't that well predisposed to them before I visited Russia from some previous experiences and so maybe just confirmed what I already felt.. But I had few memorable, pleasant interactions unlike most other places...

But I may go back and explore the place a bit more, maybe the caucuses at some point, maybe the Trans-Siberia one day... Not all places you visit are necessarily for the people you bump into...

The visa process i recall was pretty straight forward when i did it, just bought one through Real Russia and they sent the letter and all...

That is interesting about the visa. I’m on a cruise FB page ad the people there are banging on about how hard it is. They are from the US mainly. We toured with a Russian Tour group and they sorted it but we weren’t allowed to stray from the group and do our own thing.

Now RooFlyer, I’ve been to St Petersburg. A couple of years ago. Did you not read my TR - Russian around the Baltic’s? :D
 
And, for @RooFlyer, don't get spooked by the Mi-8. It's the world's most-produced helo: Mil Mi-8 - Wikipedia.

Nutt'n to do with helicopters - just the cost! I probably will weaken, but as I'm new at this retirement thing, I'm being just a teeny bit $ cautious (for someone who has 2 trips and tours locked away this year, plus a DONE4 and a trip to Rajesthan in planning for 2020 :rolleyes: .)

That is interesting about the visa. I’m on a cruise FB page ad the people there are banging on about how hard it is. They are from the US mainly. We toured with a Russian Tour group and they sorted it but we weren’t allowed to stray from the group and do our own thing.

Now RooFlyer, I’ve been to St Petersburg. A couple of years ago. Did you not read my TR - Russian around the Baltic’s? :D

Well ... LOFAPs looking at Russian visas ... need I say more?

Ah, yes, I do remember your TR now. That's probably the one which made me make the comment about not visiting via a cruise ship. :) (because of the restrictions).
 
Nutt'n to do with helicopters - just the cost! I probably will weaken, but as I'm new at this retirement thing, I'm being just a teeny bit $ cautious (for someone who has 2 trips and tours locked away this year, plus a DONE4 and a trip to Rajesthan in planning for 2020 :rolleyes: .)



Well ... LOFAPs looking at Russian visas ... need I say more?

Ah, yes, I do remember your TR now. That's probably the one which made me make the comment about not visiting via a cruise ship. :) (because of the restrictions).
Yes but in hindsight it was perfect for me. Two full days in SPB was plenty. Would have liked to have gone to Moscow but husband was there in the ‘80s and in the Cold War period and it didn’t really make him want to return. He disappeared from all phone contact with me for weeks! He’d book a call then try to sleep then would be woken up an hour later with the latest proposition from a hooker. They knew conversations they were having in their room were being monitored because of later actions that were not random. He went behind the wall into Leipzig and felt much safer in East Germany than in Russia which is saying something.
 
Well we had 3 days in St.Petersburg from a cruise ship and had no problems seeing everything.
We did a 3 day private tour with SPB tours.Didn't even have to ask to get visa,just the 2 of us with driver and guide whisked around in a black Merc with tinted windows.First in virtually everywhere.No restrictions and visited places originally not on the list.
 
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