Another Virgin 'Serious Incident' - Embraer

[pauly7]

The terror continues in Australia's skies!! Virgin takes 2nd hit in 3 days - just waiting for JQ and Tiger now to share the pain...



Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing
A VIRGIN Blue jet with 55 passengers on board was forced to make a high-speed landing at Melbourne airport in what air safety investigators are treating as a serious incident.
Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing | NEWS.com.au

 

[Evan]

I have no idea what the length of the MEL runway is or what the normal landing requiremtn is but i am sure there was always going to be plenty to spare.
Do the Embraer's have thrust reversers ?

I like the way the artical gets the country of production in there, somehow implying that because its made there it is of lesser quality.

E

 

[mm472]

what is it with the media at the moment,

are they all upset that a certain sporting event is getting to much air time ??

From My LIMITED understanding, ( i am not pilot, but i LOVE FSX )

During Landing the primary use for Flaps and Slats is not so slow the plane down, rather it increases the wing area, giving the wing more lift, Thus allowing the plane to fly at a slower speed ( landing approach ).

Now having said that, it will slow the plane down if u were to just deploy flaps, but not increase engine speed to account for the extra drag, but it is not the primary reason for having them on the planes,

I am sure one of these small jets landing at Melbourne, would have not had to much trouble, , though i suspect it may have been a "hard" landing for those on board.

Its about time the media get their facts straight before giving it to ANYBODY !!

 

[straitman]

The terror continues in Australia's skies!! Virgin takes 2nd hit in 3 days - just waiting for JQ and Tiger now to share the pain...



Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing
A VIRGIN Blue jet with 55 passengers on board was forced to make a high-speed landing at Melbourne airport in what air safety investigators are treating as a serious incident.
Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing | NEWS.com.au

Interesting that when opening the above link that three of the ten 'Most Popular' travel stories are about Qantas and one is about Virgin Blue :!: :shock:

 

[codash1099]

The terror continues in Australia's skies!! Virgin takes 2nd hit in 3 days - just waiting for JQ and Tiger now to share the pain...



Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing
A VIRGIN Blue jet with 55 passengers on board was forced to make a high-speed landing at Melbourne airport in what air safety investigators are treating as a serious incident.
Virgin jet forced to make high-speed landing | NEWS.com.au

By golly, this is starting to get really serious:!:

It is a near new plane without a roo on the tail and there have been no troubles with DJ engineers. Maybe we've all got it wrong. It can't be the individual airline.

However Mr Creedy has a clue for us. It is obviously geography!

The scare follows a host of safety issues with Australian planes that began three weeks ago when an explosion on a Qantas 747 blew a hole in the fuselage.

It's the fact that the planes are Australian!

 

[straitman]

I have no idea what the length of the MEL runway is or what the normal landing requiremtn is but i am sure there was always going to be plenty to spare.
Do the Embraer's have thrust reversers ?

I like the way the artical gets the country of production in there, somehow implying that because its made there it is of lesser quality.

E

Runway 09/27 is 2286 X 45 M (7620 x 150 ft) & runway 16/34 is 3657 X 60 M (12190 X 200 ft) and I believe that both would have been adequate.

what is it with the media at the moment,

are they all upset that a certain sporting event is getting to much air time ??

From My LIMITED understanding, ( i am not pilot, but i LOVE FSX )

During Landing the primary use for Flaps and Slats is not so slow the plane down, rather it increases the wing area, giving the wing more lift, Thus allowing the plane to fly at a slower speed ( landing approach ).

Now having said that, it will slow the plane down if u were to just deploy flaps, but not increase engine speed to account for the extra drag, but it is not the primary reason for having them on the planes,

Well put together. The only thing to add is that for takeoff aircraft use a small amount of flap (approx 15 deg) so they can get airborne at lower speeds and that for landing they use considerably more flap (approx 40 deg) which, as you say increases lift and drag and subsequently allows the aircraft to land slower. Some high performance types such as the Mirage don't even have flaps or slats and it simply means they land a lot faster, in the vicinity of 185 / 190 kts.

I am sure one of these small jets landing at Melbourne, would have not had to much trouble, , though i suspect it may have been a "hard" landing for those on board.

Not even a hard landing, just a little faster than normal. The procedure would be one that is in the aircraft emergency checklist but classified as minor. The crew would have practiced this in the simulator and be quite comfortable with the procedure.

Its about time the media get their facts straight before giving it to ANYBODY !!

No comment needed :!: :shock:

However Mr Creedy has a clue for us. It is obviously geography!

It's the fact that the planes are Australian!

How did everyone miss such an obvious link up until now :?:

 

[pauly7]

I like the way the artical gets the country of production in there, somehow implying that because its made there it is of lesser quality.

E

I know, that wasn't lost on me either. What a ridiculous dig implying just because its South American its of poor quality.

Another example of quality non-hysteric Australian journalism.

 

[straitman]

I know, that wasn't lost on me either. What a ridiculous dig implying just because its South American its of poor quality.

Another example of quality non-hysteric Australian journalism.

I didn't even think it was worth a comment.

Mr Creedy obviously has no knowledge about where aircraft part are manufactured as various parts of all aircraft are contracted out all over the world.

 

[Evan]

I didn't even think it was worth a comment.

Mr Creedy obviously has no knowledge about where aircraft part are manufactured as various parts of all aircraft are contracted out all over the world.

I am sure he will next be telling us if there is a problem with an airbus that boeing is better, pity even the 2 big ones make parts for each other. (not sure how common that it but it happens)

Actually if you follow the geography reason as the problem the whole world is in trouble since some parts are made here for current and future aircraft like the 787.

E