Tazza_0712
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...changed out of PJs seated in the old VA 777 J in Row 5, behind the curtain... definitely not a suite, and it was a bit of a mad dash
Just a random anecdote.
Just a random anecdote.
I would agree here. How can this be rated as the best business class seat? With all due respect to AusBT, I don't think the seat (and again we are only talking hard product, not anything else) is the best. It doesn't even come close to SQ's newest business class on their 77W's for example. I would also rate EY's (B787, A380) and QR's (B787, A350, A380) business class seats as better.
For example, AusBT knows that if they write a scathing review of Qantas' product, their source of inside knowledge about forthcoming announcements and future invites to product launches will dry up. Qantas does not have to censor the content produced because they know the reviewer will self-censor.
Oh, cry me a river. Seriously!!
I've read your report on ABT, and it was sycophantic and gushy. There is nothing revolutionary about the QF787 J seat. Changing the divider from fixed to sliding and changing the colour palette is not revolutionary.
I was rating this as a seat alone and as the excerpt says, solely on the 789, not for the A380 or 77W or anything else. Personally and on the whole I prefer the QF 789 business class seat to that of QR or EY, that's just a personal preference and it's a close call against both airlines, but it is what it is. Disagreement on my call is of course totally cool
It would be a very stupid business decision if he did NOT. How do you think he'll react if he misses out on the next airline launch junket? Obviously he misses out on a 'scoop', and cost him advertising dollars.
AThe only way one can be truely independent and report non-bias reviews is arms length flights, purchased like any other pax.
My concern about the QF 789 J suite is that it works fairly well for the current missions it is on - the 8-10 hour asia missions, but we're talking 17 hours PER-LHR ULH operations... ANY seat is going to be painful (let's not even contemplate Y, though many will have to ) and it seems QF have not changed the overall design much to even provide a little more room.. once in those seats it can be a little crampy to me. That with the lack of a stand up sort of area (bar if you will) means pax will be more or less confined to their seating area which isn't going to be much fun come 13+ hours in. Sure, you can get up and go walk and hang around the door 2/galley area until the FAs get sick of it, or walk down the back but it seems like QF have ignored that on such a long flight just getting up and stretching is vital for many every so often. Even doing F on the 380 I get up and go stretch ahead of the lavs in the 1L area (1R being that little rest area) or walk upstairs to the J "lounge" area.. it's something... of course we know on the 789 being forward of row 1 is difficult due to the coughpit location, security etc....
Come to think of it, there seems nothing for PE or Y pax either in this regard.
I know space is $$$$ and all, but I think some other carriers may have thought this through a little better.
Personally and on the whole I prefer the QF 789 business class seat to that of QR or EY, that's just a personal preference and it's a close call against both airlines, but it is what it is. Disagreement on my call is of course totally cool
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Something else which may be of interest or worthy of note: the seat cushions in Y+ and Y turned out to be the exact same width, 49cm from edge to edge, which goes to show how armrests play into perceptions – indeed, realities – of "how wide is my seat?"
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However, the Y bulkhead and exit row seats with their fixed armrests (which contain swing-up IFE screen and meal table) proved to be just just 43cm from cushion edge-to-edge...
Another article - this time all three classes are reviewed:
A 17-hour long haul? How the Qantas Dreamliner's seats stack up
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When I saw the misplaced apostrophe in the headline, I didn't go any further. More average travel journalism. I think Australian Business Traveller (or its writers) sometimes contribute to Fairfax.
And if the Dreamliner is a game changer for QF why did JQ get first bite?
To be fair, at the time QF "gave" JQ the 787-8 orders to fly their asia (and HNL) missions. In turn, the JQ 330's transitioned to the QF fleet for the domestic and asia runs where, I would assume, the older airframes would have a lower cost base compared to the brand new(~2012) 788's. Seems to me it made more sense for QF to fly the 330's on these runs, specially the transcons, than the 787's which JQ could crame 335 souls into and make $$$ flying to DPS, HNL etc for a higher yield.
In terms of "game changers" - the 788 doesn't have the legs for these ULH missions. Now yes, a 788 has done LAX-MEL (UA had flown them from time to time), but it could never do the PER-LHR version.
the 789 can do that, so in this respect it is a game chancer of sorts.