Moon Landings - fact or conspiracy

[samh004]

I don't understand the bit about 'see' posts being deleted.

Posts about God were removed. This topic concerns the moon landings. Let's keep things on topic and not attack each other.

 

[Cruiser Elite]

No, regrettably science doesn't always win (at first). Sometime the nutters get some airtime, but that doesn't mean any less that they are nutters.

Hey - I resemble that comment!

Question for the believers - let's assume all astute scientists congregated on the moon - how long before they reach a decision as to which comes first - chicken or egg? Hasn't that baffled scientists from all solar systems for eternity? Enough to drive them all 'nutters' I would suggest.

 

[TheRealTMA]

See some posts have been deleted.

My opinion is irrelevant. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want without being called a nutter.

So it's ok for you to post irrelevant material about mythical medieval beliefs but I can't post the above statement that even if I believe it? (Which I didn't actually say, btw.)

 

[JohnK]

So it's ok for you to post irrelevant material about mythical medieval beliefs but I can't post the above statement that even if I believe it? (Which I didn't actually say, btw.)

I believe the moon landings were a hoax. I didn't insult anyone.

In your opinion I posted about mythical medieval beliefs. You might be right. I might be wrong. It wasn't irrelevant to the discussion. On the contrary.

I was trying highlight the arrogance of science and the replies proved it.

 

[RooFlyer]

Posts about God were removed. This topic concerns the moon landings. Let's keep things on topic and not attack each other.

I saw the earlier note about posts being removed; sounds like things got a bit o/t (I didn't see them). I was wondering what JohnK meant about "see .... posts were deleted" as if my attention was being drawn to the issue, as if they concerned me. Still confused, but that's OK.

Hey - I resemble that comment!

Question for the believers - let's assume all astute scientists congregated on the moon - how long before they reach a decision as to which comes first - chicken or egg? Hasn't that baffled scientists from all solar systems for eternity? Enough to drive them all 'nutters' I would suggest.

Actually, I have been suspecting that your tongue has been firmly in your cheek . Still suspect it. But the chicken-and-the-egg thing isn't so much an issue for scientists as it is for lay preachers. BOOM-TISH!!

I believe the moon landings were a hoax. I didn't insult anyone.

In your opinion I posted about mythical medieval beliefs. You might be right. I might be wrong. It wasn't irrelevant to the discussion. On the contrary.

I was trying highlight the arrogance of science and the replies proved it.

No tongue in cheek there . How do you know you didn't insult anyone? I am genuinely insulted that anyone could believe the moon landings were a hoax. It should insult everyone's intelligence. I was also insulted when you suggested earlier I wasn't able to think for myself. There's a bit of arrogance going round, eh?

I wasn't taking this thread too seriously as I didn't think there were actually serious 'hoaxers' here (I wasn't meaning to call anyone here a 'nutter' as I didn't believe they genuinely thought the moon landing was a hoax). It appears I was wrong.

Fair dinkum - does anyone here have any more evidence that the moon landings were a hoax as opposed to that they were genuine? Carried out a personal investigation, or merely relying on 'internet'? Have they actively tested the pros and cons of each argument and come to a decision for themselves? (Oops, that's the arrogant science approach again!! Damn, what else to do ???)

May I ask how would the 'hoax believers' account for the lunar rover tracks you can see on the moon's surface? The lander remnants you can see there, exactly where they were filmed landing, with people attached? How did the 'hoaxers' matched the tracks with the filmed trips? What say the hoax believers to the composition of the lunar rocks? How were they faked?

Never mind the science. There's always the internet I guess.

 

[burmans]

Never mind the science.

Well there are some on this forum who seem to think science itself is a hoax!

 

[Deleted member]

Well there are some on this forum who seem to think science itself is a hoax!

what I like about science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
so i suppose it's "seeing is believing " kind of stuff !!

 

[JohnK]

No tongue in cheek there . How do you know you didn't insult anyone? I am genuinely insulted that anyone could believe the moon landings were a hoax. It should insult everyone's intelligence. I was also insulted when you suggested earlier I wasn't able to think for myself. There's a bit of arrogance going round, eh?

People would feel insulted by me saying the moon landings are a hoax? Huh!

I also believe in the 300 club or whatever name you want to give them. Don't need to debate my decision. I have seen enough to believe they exist and try to control the masses. They are doing quite well right now in creating chaos which was their number one goal.

I didn't call anyone names. Everyone is entitled to believe what they want to believe without having to justify those beliefs to anyone. I was not having a go at you.

 

[incumbent]

I also believe in the 300 club

There's not much doubt there.

On Getting Naked in Antarctica - The Atlantic

"Beliefs" do sometimes need to be substantiated to have any credibility.

 

[UP4014]

Some won't believe it because it's NASA

NASA Unveils New Detailed Photos of Apollo Moon Landing Sites | Apollo Manned Moon Missions | Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter

 

[TheRealTMA]

I believe the moon landings were a hoax. I didn't insult anyone.

In your opinion I posted about mythical medieval beliefs. You might be right. I might be wrong. It wasn't irrelevant to the discussion. On the contrary.

I was trying highlight the arrogance of science and the replies proved it.

I find such views insulting, and extremely arrogant actually. I think I definitely will have to revise my previous statement above. :evil:

 

[burmans]

what I like about science is the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
so i suppose it's "seeing is believing " kind of stuff !!

Facts, evidence, pah who needs that arrogance.

 

[Warks]

If I found out a friend believed the moon landings were a hoax I don't think I could be their friend any more.

 

[RooFlyer]

People would feel insulted by me saying the moon landings are a hoax? Huh!

<snip>.

Yes, hard to believe isn't it. Same sensitive souls whose intelligence is insulted by those who say 9/11 was done by the US government #; that climate change causes increased earthquake activity; that cold fusion is real etc etc.

# Of course 9/11could have been a hoax too. Anyone here actually SEE it happen, in person? Ignore all those brainwashed people who said they did. That's the type of thinking I'm talking about.

<snip>
I also believe in the 300 club or whatever name you want to give them. Don't need to debate my decision. I have seen enough to believe they exist and try to control the masses. They are doing quite well right now in creating chaos which was their number one goal.
<snip>.

Sorry, as you may have gathered, I'm not on the conspiracy carousel. No idea what 300 club is.

(narrows eyes. Hmmm ... surely not JohnK in the tongue-in-cheek club too ... ? Have I been hoaxed about a non-hoax?

 

[Cruiser Elite]

If I found out a friend believed the moon landings were a hoax I don't think I could be their friend any more.

If I found out one of my friends was that shallow maybe best we were not friends any longer.

I found out out last week that cove believed in Santa Claus when he was a kid - humph - I won't be talkin' to him again!

Just sayin'.

 

[RooFlyer]

If I found out one of my friends was that shallow maybe best we were not friends any longer.

I found out out last week that cove believed in Santa Claus when he was a kid - humph - I won't be talkin' to him again!

Just sayin'.

Oh, no! Not the Santa-isn't-real hoax!

 

[GarrettM]

Have none of you watched the Mythbusters Moon Landing special?

Case closed.

Mythbusters | Moon Landing Hoax | Full Episode - Video Dailymotion

 

[TomVexille]

Have none of you watched the Mythbusters Moon Landing special?

Case closed.

Mythbusters | Moon Landing Hoax | Full Episode - Video Dailymotion

But some people don't believe in science

 

[GarrettM]

But some people don't believe in science

My wife "doesn't believe" in sports talk shows.

 

[dajop]

But some people don't believe in science

Trouble with science is that it is not absolute, whereas beliefs are (at least in the view of the belief holder!).

There will always be debate and discussion on science, and it does change over time as further research is undertaken and knowledge evolves. Having said that on a lot of scientific topics, the evidence is very very difficult to refute - and when it is - it is typically only debunked with further, usually rigourously gathered, scientific evidence.