RSA MEL F Lounge Qantas Official Response (Refused Drinks)

[Pushka]

Its too easy these days to use Health and safety reason as a cop out when there are other factors in play. Like cost cutting or laziness. Just like the excuse we can't have Christmas decorations as it will offend non Christians. Which ignores the fact that Asian countries have the best Christmas decorations of all.

 

[opusman]

Dinner followed by port or stickies would take a lot longer than 90 minutes. At least it would at the sort of restaurants I go to.

Maybe I eat quicker than you

 

[RooFlyer]

Hotels: "How can we save on house-keeping?"
Answer: "Lets invoke 'environmental responsibility' and they'll fall over themselves to save us laundry etc costs."

Qantas/Accor: "How can we save on booze in Melbourne?"
Answer: "Lets invoke RSA. That's motherhood and no-one will argue with that."

Cost saving, pure and simple.

 

[Anna]

This could be interesting. I consider myself to drink an average amount.

5 nights per week - 0 drinks.
1 night per week - 1 drink.
1 night per week - 2 drinks.

Once every 3 months or so - 3 drinks in one night.

About once a year - 4 drinks in one night.

Pretty much never - more than 4 drinks in 24 hours.

 

[maninblack]

RSA MEL F Lounge Qantas Official Response ( Refused Drinks)

For me, completely apart from the "legal limit" carp from QF, 3 drinks in 90 minutes would be a lot. I am surprised at the number of people on this thread who seem to think that amount plus more is normal :shock:

I have been in QF F with a pax in an absolutely disgraceful state of intoxication - there was a complete absence of RSA from QF in that instance. He was so p1ssed by the end of the flight that he couldn't even disembark the aircraft unaided. 2 hours out from landing he could hardly stand up yet the FAs kept on serving him drinks, including going to raid the J cabin stocks after he drank the F cabin dry of his choices. Consistently inconsistent again.

Yet try asking for a second bottle of water on the flight! Even in F

 

[Buzzard]

You've never shared a bottle of wine over dinner with someone and then had a port or sticky to follow? That's the sort of quantities we're talking about.

I have lost count the number of times I have done just that. Even had a pre dinner drink too.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Dinner followed by port or stickies would take a lot longer than 90 minutes. At least it would at the sort of restaurants I go to.

dont go giving qantas ideas!!! their meal service already takes long enough as it is!!

 

[blackcat20]

I'm in the F lounge now and just put a direct question to the staff in the restaurant if there is a policy to enforce RSA particularly on pax traveling JQd.
As expected, they completely denied any discrimination against JQd pax. According to their guidelines women are allowed one alcoholic drink per hour while men can have two in the first hour and one every hour after that but they insisted the policy is stop serving alcohol ONLY if a person looks intoxicated.

Sexist much?! I hold my alcohol a lot better than many men and would not (was not) be impressed being told I was limited to one per hour. Pretty sure it's two in the first hour for women too... And their pours are only half a glass these days anyway.

On a Friday/Saturday night, two of us easily drink a bottle of wine, so easily more than three each in 90 minutes. Heck, sometimes we even crack a second bottle.

 

[Anna]

I have lost count the number of times I have done just that. Even had a pre dinner drink too.

But surely not within 90 minutes Buzz?

QF aren't saying "no more than 3 drinks". They are saying "no more than 3 drinks in 90 minutes". That's quite a big difference IMO.

 

[blackcat20]

But surely not within 90 minutes Buzz?

QF aren't saying "no more than 3 drinks". They are saying "no more than 3 drinks in 90 minutes". That's quite a big difference IMO.

For us the cutoff was four in four hours, so they kinda are...

 

[opusman]

But surely not within 90 minutes Buzz?

With the greatest respect, I would suggest that your alcohol intake (and perhaps tolerance) is not representative of a large percentage of the Australian population

QF aren't saying "no more than 3 drinks". They are saying "no more than 3 drinks in 90 minutes".

Well not quite, they're saying "no more than 3 drinks in the first 2 hours" (2 in the first hour, 1 in the second). And as a woman you would be limited to 2 drinks in the first 2 hours, a point you seem to have overlooked - makes sharing that bottle of wine a bit harder given that your half would have to take you at least 3 hours to get through, plus another hour to wait for the sticky

 

[RooFlyer]

But surely not within 90 minutes Buzz?

QF aren't saying "no more than 3 drinks". They are saying "no more than 3 drinks in 90 minutes". That's quite a big difference IMO.

Personally, when I pour a drink, or have one poured for me, I don't put the stopwatch on. YMMV.

 

[Mr_Orange]

This could be interesting. I consider myself to drink an average amount.

5 nights per week - 0 drinks.
1 night per week - 1 drink.
1 night per week - 2 drinks.

Once every 3 months or so - 3 drinks in one night.

About once a year - 4 drinks in one night.

Pretty much never - more than 4 drinks in 24 hours.

I wouldn't call that an average amount. I would call that well less than average. Friday after work, I will frequently knock back 3 in an hour with a few mates before heading home.

 

[blackcat20]

Well not quite, they're saying "no more than 3 drinks in the first 2 hours" (2 in the first hour, 1 in the second). And as a woman you would be limited to 2 drinks in the first 2 hours, a point you seem to have overlooked - makes sharing that bottle of wine a bit harder given that your half would have to take you at least 3 hours to get through, plus another hour to wait for the sticky

If that was me sharing a bottle with my mum Id never get a second glass (which has happened more than once, she drinks way faster than me).

 

[boomy]

RSA MEL F Lounge Qantas Official Response ( Refused Drinks)

Sexist much?! I hold my alcohol a lot better than many men and would not (was not) be impressed being told I was limited to one per hour. Pretty sure it's two in the first hour for women too... And their pours are only half a glass these days anyway.

On a Friday/Saturday night, two of us easily drink a bottle of wine, so easily more than three each in 90 minutes. Heck, sometimes we even crack a second bottle.

Haha you should see my gf's face turn red when she heard that! But we were just about to start our holiday and not in the mood to argue with the lounge staff about these issues. I found it interesting that the person who told me that was a girl...

 

[Ansett]

But surely not within 90 minutes Buzz?

QF aren't saying "no more than 3 drinks". They are saying "no more than 3 drinks in 90 minutes". That's quite a big difference IMO.

With respect we were told that because we had 3 drinks with in 90 minutes we were not allowed any more FULL STOP. So I guess that means that they are limiting to 3 drinks.

 

[DC3]

I have only been to the MEL F Lounge once, as I usually fly out of SYD.

However, do we know if a specific individual is cutting off the drinks or is more than one person doing this? Would it be poor form to show a photo, here, for the benefit of others?

 

[Anna]

Well not quite, they're saying "no more than 3 drinks in the first 2 hours" (2 in the first hour, 1 in the second). And as a woman you would be limited to 2 drinks in the first 2 hours

I don't have a problem with that

YMMV If I drink an average amount then logically that means some people drink less than average and other people drink more than average.

 

[dk4]

The distance between the point at which a person is intoxicated and the point at which they are prescribed to have consumed too much alcohol to drive, are quite vastly different distances from "stone cold sober", on the spectrum of alcohol consumption. Imagine if it were legal to drive up to the point just before a person was considered intoxicated? :shock:

It is concerning to read that individuals and companies involved in the RSA, are not able to differentiate between these two extreme points of difference.

 

[ReLoad]

In the lounge this morning and the service was "basic" at best.

The breakfast table next to me the guy had two glasses of scotch on the rocks. I guess it's the breakfast of champions.