Australia Network (cable network in Asia) ceasing broadcast on 29 Sep

[medhead]

Sure, there's a ' range', with the chosen spectrum mostly being from soft left to loony left. But anyone in the 'far left' position sees balance, to their left and right, so everything is just dandy.

Perhaps you should quantify the panelists. There are plenty of regular loony right wingers on the show. Janet albrectsen to name just one. Yet again I think you're missing the centre for left. It also reminds me of an excellent exchange where a right wing nutter accused Tony Jones of bias. That was met with the firm rebuttal that Jones is doing his job to question all and that the nutter has no idea of his personal view.

That is the crux of the failure of right wing nutter. They think they are above questioning; they incorrectly see anyone asking valid questions to inform the public as biased.

 

[Hvr]

Sure, there's a ' range', with the chosen spectrum mostly being from soft left to loony left. But anyone in the 'far left' position sees balance, to their left and right, so everything is just dandy.

What about the rancid right wingers whose attitudes are generally intolerant of anything to left of centre?

Anyway, am currently in BKK and the Australian Network is still transmitting with Bananas in Pyjamas playing, have seen snippets of Play School, Q and A and various news programs.

 

[markis10]

Anyway, am currently in BKK and the Australian Network is still transmitting with Bananas in Pyjamas playing, have seen snippets of Play School, Q and A and various news programs.

Err no, thats Australia Plus, the replacement

http://tv.australiaplus.com/tvguide

 

[Hvr]

Err no, thats Australia Plus, the replacement

TV Guide | Australia Plus TV

You're quite right, just noticed the new watermark in the corner.

 

[markis10]

You're quite right, just noticed the new watermark in the corner.

Dont worry, they still feature giggle and hoot

 

[RooFlyer]

Perhaps you should quantify the panelists. There are plenty of regular loony right wingers on the show. Janet albrectsen to name just one. Yet again I think you're missing the centre for left. It also reminds me of an excellent exchange where a right wing nutter accused Tony Jones of bias. That was met with the firm rebuttal that Jones is doing his job to question all and that the nutter has no idea of his personal view.

That is the crux of the failure of right wing nutter. They think they are above questioning; they incorrectly see anyone asking valid questions to inform the public as biased.

What about the rancid right wingers whose attitudes are generally intolerant of anything to left of centre?

Anyway, am currently in BKK and the Australian Network is still transmitting with Bananas in Pyjamas playing, have seen snippets of Play School, Q and A and various news programs.

I think you may have both missed my point. 'Bias' and who's on the left / far left / extreme left (or right) is a matter of how one personally sees things; where one 'sits'. Like I said, some-one from the far left sees great balance (being between soft left and loony left). You've espoused your own personal viewpoints, and well done on that. Stick to Play School and we shouldn't be in disagreement (or have they started frightening the kids with 'global warming' hysterics, too?)

 

[Jousams]

What about the rancid right wingers whose attitudes are generally intolerant of anything to left of centre?

And in terms of television programming, There is only one hour per week of rancid right winged broadcasting (on channel ten lol? So does it even count?). Whereas one could say that a large portion of the ABCs news and current affairs programs generally lean left.

ABC leans to the left, but probably no more than News is the other way, the difference is we pay for it.

How about let the lefties build their own media organisation and then be as biased as they want, with their own money.

(NOTE: whilst I am somewhat supportive of the current liberal government, I have been known to vote for both sides, so I'm not super 'right')

 

[Jousams]

Damn you all, talking about the ABC makes me so mad.
I'm going to have a beer.

 

[Hvr]

<snip> Whereas one could say that a large portion of the ABCs news and current affairs programs generally lean left.

<snip>

You could say that but it doesn't make it true. Nor is it true to say that Ch 10 only has one hour of rancid right wing broadcasting per week. After all they have a daily news program.

Surely if you're going to say that everything the ABC broadcasts is left wing then the argument could be made that everything the commercial networks broadcast is right wing? Of course that is a fallacy.

The ABC is generally hated by the right wing ideologues for various reasons, maybe they don't like hearing open and coherent arguments? The current government certainly has a bias against science so that is another reason for suppression of free thought.

 

[Jousams]

Surely if you're going to say that everything the ABC broadcasts is left wing then the argument could be made that everything the commercial networks broadcast is right wing? Of course that is a fallacy.

Sure ACA is biased against Greedy councils (many of which are labour majorities),dodgy builders, and kitchen germs. But I find there reporting on Coles and Woolworths quite equal?

 

[BAM1748]

The ABC has Dame Gerard Henderson on the insiders, with balance like that who needs the right.

Matt

 

[RooFlyer]

<snip>

Surely if you're going to say that everything the ABC broadcasts is left wing then the argument could be made that everything the commercial networks broadcast is right wing? Of course that is a fallacy.

<snip>.

Actually, its probably more true than not.

The difference is, of course is that the ABC is funded by the poor old taxpayer and has, you know a Charter thingy which says it should not be biased. Where as the commercial networks are, you know, commercial. If they are biased towards the right then it probably means that this brings in ratings via higher viewer numbers; this is paid for by advertisers who like to put their product in front of larger audiences.

If we weren't forced to pay for the ABC, and it had to rely on, say subscriptions, it would be off the air immediately.

I don't mind the ABC putting out stuff that appeals to the green Left - I just don't like being made to pay for it.

How much per week would you be prepared to pay for it, given that there would only be its ratings audience with you helping to pay? Or how about commercials on 'our' ABC? Morrie Schwartz could advertise his own rag.

 

[Jousams]

How much per week would you be prepared to pay for it

Each Australian pays on average, around $50 a year for the privilege

Which is over 7 visits to the GP!
Outrageous!

 

[amaroo]

Actually, its probably more true than not.

The difference is, of course is that the ABC is funded by the poor old taxpayer and has, you know a Charter thingy which says it should not be biased. Where as the commercial networks are, you know, commercial. If they are biased towards the right then it probably means that this brings in ratings via higher viewer numbers; this is paid for by advertisers who like to put their product in front of larger audiences.

If we weren't forced to pay for the ABC, and it had to rely on, say subscriptions, it would be off the air immediately.

I don't mind the ABC putting out stuff that appeals to the green Left - I just don't like being made to pay for it.

How much per week would you be prepared to pay for it, given that there would only be its ratings audience with you helping to pay? Or how about commercials on 'our' ABC? Morrie Schwartz could advertise his own rag.

Interesting Q - this very topic is currently being discussed in Senate Estimates .... Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

SHOWPIECE ABC news and current affairs programs are failing to pull strong audiences, *according to ratings data released in response to senate estimates committee questioning.

Lateline, Q&A, Insiders and Four Corners do not appear in the list of the national broadcaster’s top 20 programs for the first six months of the year.

The 7pm Saturday bulletin was the only regular news or current affairs program in the top 20. It was joined by two one-offs; Treasurer Joe Hockey’s first budget speech and the special edition of 7.30 that followed.ABC ratings

ABC news director Kate *Torney yesterday hit back at comments from Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull last week that staff and viewers are entitled to question the broadcaster’s management over how $70 million in additional funding over three years it was awarded last year is being spent, insisting her division is providing “a substantial return on investment’’. But government figures have seized on the ratings data to call on the ABC to review the tone and content of its news and current affairs programming.

Senate leader Eric Abetz said managing director Mark Scott could learn from the results.

“While it is true that ratings are not the be-all and end-all, it is telling that programs like Lateline, Insiders, Four Corners, Q&A, Foreign Correspondent and the ABC’s weeknight news just don’t seem to rate,” he said.

“Surely this should be telling Mr Scott something.”

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[get me outta here]

Geez where is yr GP, I'm moving there for that price.

Each Australian pays on average, around $50 a year for the privilege

Which is over 7 visits to the GP!
Outrageous!

 

[amaroo]

Geez where is yr GP, I'm moving there for that price.

Could be wrong .... looks like a legitimate comparison to the GP co-payment :!:

 

[get me outta here]

Yes, but this quote is an interpretation from The Aus .....

Interesting Q - this very topic is currently being discussed in Senate Estimates .... Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian



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[amaroo]

Yes, but this quote is an interpretation from The Aus .....

Don't hold your breathe waiting to listen, read or watch the ABC report that its ratings are lower than a snake's belly! No good funding something that a tiny minority watch - SBS fills that void.

 

[Jousams]

If they replace Leigh sales with Tracy Grimshaw, tony jones with kochie and tiki Fullerton with Ross greenwood I might watch the ABC


"Tonight on foreign correspondent..."

 

[get me outta here]

Well, we don't actually have it passed as yet, maybe due to how much it will load up hospital emergency depts.

Could be wrong .... looks like a legitimate comparison to the GP co-payment :!: