Child defecates on seat.

[TomVexille]

Have we hit a new low?

Flight attendants and fellow passengers tried to have the child moved to the aircraft toilet, but both parents and grandparents who were accompanying the child were insistent, leaving the flight attendant no choice but to drop the subject, it was reported.The child’s parents spread newspaper on the airline seat and encouraged the child to relieve himself there, according to the Daily Mail.

Passengers rage as child 'defecates in plane seat': report

 

[JohnK]

Not sure we can stoop any lower but let's see if we can somehow defend their actions by playing the racist card or that this behaviour is acceptable in their culture so it must be OK.

Disgusting....

 

[SeatBackForward]

Not sure we can stoop any lower but let's see if we can somehow defend their actions by playing the racist card or that this behaviour is acceptable in their culture so it must be OK.

Disgusting....

Ooops too late.

ETA Ok after actually reading the article, I get it..

 

[whatmeworry]

The etiquette of some mainland Chinese travellers overseas has again come under fire after a family allegedly allowed their child to defecate on the seat of a Delta Airlines flight from Beijing to Detroit.

Read more: Passengers rage as child 'defecates in plane seat': report
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Maybe this should be in the thread "China never a Dull Moment".

Is it just the Chinese mainlanders that have such poor etiquette?

 

[anat0l]

Maybe this should be in the thread "China never a Dull Moment".

Is it just the Chinese mainlanders that have such poor etiquette?

I'm not exactly sure if this conduct would be tolerated on a China domestic flight (it may be ignored, not encouraged, but I'd harbour a guess at some disgust).

Given the reaction in mainland China (admittedly only amongst netizens), they aren't exactly proud of that conduct.

There are some pretty bad examples of etiquette of mainland Chinese in other countries, though a lot of it manifests itself in similar ways to tourists of other nationalities: a failure to be mindful of local customs, etiquette and conduct. Though in this case I really wonder if this would even be tolerated in mainland China, despite it being common, e.g. to spit anywhere or urinate in street corners....

 

[TomVexille]

I'm not exactly sure if this conduct would be tolerated on a China domestic flight (it may be ignored, not encouraged, but I'd harbour a guess at some disgust).

Given the reaction in mainland China (admittedly only amongst netizens), they aren't exactly proud of that conduct.

Given that this sort of story pops up every now and then, it does seem like they aren't learning... yet

 

[Steelo]

Of course it is disgusting and I am sure there are many examples of inappropriate behaviour around the world. But I think I have seen much more disgusting behaviour by adults (and not from China) at well known tourist spots.

 

[TomVexille]

Of course it is disgusting and I am sure there are many examples of inappropriate behaviour around the world. But I think I have seen much more disgusting behaviour by adults (and not from China) at well known tourist spots.

Definitely. Idiots in every country.

 

[Happy Trails]

Well, I was hesitant to post this one when it occurred, but seeing as the subject's been raised...


Plane forced to make emergency landing after Truffles the service dog relieves himself three times on flight - Americas - World - The Independent

 

[TomVexille]

Well, I was hesitant to post this one when it occurred, but seeing as the subject's been raised...


Plane forced to make emergency landing after Truffles the service dog relieves himself three times on flight - Americas - World - The Independent

Little bit different to parents who coax their child into doing the same instead of simply taking them to the lav.

 

[anat0l]

Given that this sort of story pops up every now and then, it does seem like they aren't learning... yet

Could say the same thing about Australia (not our tourists' toilet habits, but other things) and we sure as hell haven't learned yet!

I'm not sure about "not learning" - it may happen and people may not read or care about it, but the fact it "keeps happening" doesn't categorically mean that they (the culture or nation) have no issue with that conduct. Indeed, that is why so many on that nation's social media networks have spoken up about it, though suffice to say - like almost any other nation - the netizens are not necessarily a good cross-section of the population. In some cases, the "politburo" (or whatever equivalent) has even personally condemned that behaviour; let's hope for the sake of those perpetrators that they live to see another free day.

We could also use the argument of the very few who tarnish the name of many (not a popular argument); given there are several mainland Chinese travelling now, I have no doubt not all of them are model tourists, though I doubt the majority would have conduct of very low standards of those implicated in the article.

And before anyone gets any ideas, I do NOT endorse or tolerate the conduct of those implicated in the article!

 

[TomVexille]

Could say the same thing about Australia (not our tourists' toilet habits, but other things) and we sure as hell haven't learned yet!

I'm not sure about "not learning" - it may happen and people may not read or care about it, but the fact it "keeps happening" doesn't categorically mean that they (the culture or nation) have no issue with that conduct. Indeed, that is why so many on that nation's social media networks have spoken up about it, though suffice to say - like almost any other nation - the netizens are not necessarily a good cross-section of the population. In some cases, the "politburo" (or whatever equivalent) has even personally condemned that behaviour; let's hope for the sake of those perpetrators that they live to see another free day.

We could also use the argument of the very few who tarnish the name of many (not a popular argument); given there are several mainland Chinese travelling now, I have no doubt not all of them are model tourists, though I doubt the majority would have conduct of very low standards of those implicated in the article.

And before anyone gets any ideas, I do NOT endorse or tolerate the conduct of those implicated in the article!

Agreed.

Drunk Australians in Bali/Thailand/anywhere else...
Loud obnoxious Russians/Americans/Germans ect.

Stereotypes exist about every nationality.

 

[blackcat20]

Ergh, how revolting.

 

[drron]

I'm sorry but the Mainland Chinese have gone to the top of my list for I hope I don't meet them on this flight,hotel or cruise.
And the ones I run into are the elite,rich Chinese.

 

[markis10]

Could say the same thing about Australia (not our tourists' toilet habits, but other things) and we sure as hell haven't learned yet!

Funny you should mention that, having had two ferry rides in a week where a similar situation occurred, both instances were medical I suspect but it does reinforce the fact there is often another unreported side to the story. I feel sorry for the employees tasked with cleaning it up.

 

[anat0l]

I'm sorry but the Chinese have gone to the top of my list for I hope I don't meet them on this flight,hotel or cruise.
And the ones I run into are the elite,rich Chinese.

Geez...sorry and hope we are never even in the same postcode....

 

[jastel]

This PC rot has gone too far if this is allowed...the flight attendants dropped the matter, the parents were insistent...how about the other 300 people on the plane "insist" on taking him to the toilet...not like you can crack a window up there!

On a similar note you see the signs in toilet cubicles about sitting down properly, not crouching on the bowl chinese style. How many problems must the cleaners have had for them to put up signs.

 

[drron]

Geez...sorry and hope we are never even in the same postcode....

Though I did mean mainland Chinese.A lot of my friends are ABCs-they describe themselves that way.
Also am honorary grandfather to the children of a Malaysian Chinese fellow-of course now an Aussie.
So I am sure we would have no problems.

 

[anat0l]

This PC rot has gone too far if this is allowed...the flight attendants dropped the matter, the parents were insistent...how about the other 300 people on the plane "insist" on taking him to the toilet...not like you can crack a window up there!

I'm guessing the FAs didn't want to risk anything legal, and that is without considering any physical consequences that could be inflicted upon them...they are stuck between a rock and hard place, and the legal precedence owing to where they are employed does not help. A terrorist threat is one thing......

Though I did mean mainland Chinese.A lot of my friends are ABCs-they describe themselves that way.
Also am honorary grandfather to the children of a Malaysian Chinese fellow-of course now an Aussie.
So I am sure we would have no problems.

Irrespective, you may like to revise your statement clearly.

I'm not exactly enamoured with the behaviour of most mainland Chinese myself, though suffice to say I do have friends and colleagues from mainland China who have better standards, or at least are aware and cognisant of different societal norms.

I'd be tempted to claim that this incident is ridiculous not so much on any cultural norms more than it's just stupidly unhygienic in a public area (which is a huge difference to just some street corner, if even then). No different to some of the "red neck"/"chav" (sorry Americans/Brits) stories of babies being changed on tray tables and giving dirty (untied) nappies to the FAs to dispose.

 

[drron]

So anat01 I have edited my post.However my experiences with those from mainland China on planes,hotels and on cruises has been such that they have taken over from drunken Aussies.I have been known to deny my Australian nationality in the past due to the behaviour of fellow Aussies.
However witnessing first hand the behaviour of rich mainland Chinese means I will not resile from my statements.In Cameroon,West Africa,seeing a Chinese woman move an almost certainly dying infant so she could get a better photo was much worse than the incident we are discussing.It disgusted me.