xONEx Price/Rules changes May 2009

[MelUser]

I thine LONEs and DONEs (and AONEs) ex AUS have just increased in price!!:

oneworld Explorer -
4 continent

Economy AUD 3,699 [Peak: AUD 3,699]
Business AUD 11,199
First AUD 15,699
oneworld Explorer -
5 continent

Economy AUD 4,299 [Peak: AUD 4,299]
Business AUD 12,599
First AUD 16,899
oneworld Explorer -
6 continent

Economy AUD 4,999 [Peak: AUD 4,999]
Business AUD 13,999
First AUD 18,199

 

[Evan]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Wow !! and so did South Korea !!!
But South Africa seems the same i think. Some other ones i was looking at are also up... but not much.

Bit sad when 4600 GBP = 9400 AUD which is almost $2k cheaper than the AU price.

 

[Evan]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Also Indonesia is still ok i guess....

oneworld Explorer -
3 continent

Economy USD 2,808
Business USD 5,928
First USD 8,198

oneworld Explorer -
4 continent

Economy USD 3,370
Business USD 6,779
First USD 9,370

 

[medhead]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Also, there isnt a place online where we can price it is there and play around with schedules etc.?

Besides the timetables, there is also an itinerary builder and online booking tool on the oneworld website. As with most dummy bookings you can go right through to get a price, without having to pay.

 

[oz_mark]

Re: DONE4 pricing

I thine LONEs and DONEs (and AONEs) ex AUS have just increased in price!!:

Several things happened - the price went up, seasonaity was removed ex-Australia, Premium Economy Surcharges increased and Libya moved

 

[hayden]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Wow !! and so did South Korea !!!
But South Africa seems the same i think. Some other ones i was looking at are also up... but not much.

Damn, I was looking at doing it ex-ICN but there goes that plan... it looks like they have gone up a fair bit...

Has anyone done it via Indonesia?

 

[moa999]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Libya moved?? into Europe i assume.

Also some crazy changes to pricing relativities
eg Pakistan, first almost double business, but only 25% in Aus.

 

[PeteJ]

Re: DONE4 pricing

From www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/news/200905/0500

Oneworld / Global Fares Update 01 May 2009
With reference to the recent Oneworld and Global Fares update, existing bookings created on/before 30 April 2009, may be ticketed on QF-081 stock only at existing levels up to/including Friday 15 May 2009.
Effective immediately, the advised amendments will be applicable to the following Oneworld / Global Explorer fares:

Oneworld Explorer Fares (AONE*/ DONE*/ L#ONE*)
- Increases to ex Australia First/Business Class fares
- Increases to various ex Asia fare levels
- Fares introduced ex Falkland Islands
- Seasonality removed ex Australia, new year-round fares now set at former High season levels
- Premium Economy Class surcharges increased, and USD removed as a surcharge currency
- Tran States removed as an American Airlines affiliate
- Libya added to "Europe/Middle East" continent group (was previously Africa)
- Flight Application (paragraph 4.H) adjusted - "no more than 2 of the free flight segments within Europe/Middle East can be between UK and Libya"
- Refunds rule updated with new note regarding refunds for tickets sold in Venezuela

Global Explorer Fares (AGLOB34/ DGLOB34/ L#GLOB**)
- Increases to ex Australia First/Business Class fares
- Increases to various ex Asia fare levels
- Libya added to "Europe/Middle East" region (was previously Africa)
- Fares introduced ex Falkland Islands
- Seasonality removed ex Australia, new year-round fares now set at former High season levels
- Premium Economy Class surcharges increased, and USD removed as a surcharge currency
- Tran States removed as an American Airlines affiliate
- Refunds rule updated with new note regarding refunds for tickets sold in Venezuela

Oneworld Circle Pacific Explorer Fares (ACIR**/ DCIR**/ LCIR**--)
- Fares introduced ex Falkland Islands
- Premium Economy Class surcharges increased, and USD/GBP removed as surcharge currencies
- Tran States removed as an American Airlines affiliate
- Refunds rule updated with new note regarding refunds for tickets sold in Venezuela

Oneworld Circle Trip Explorer Fares (AONEWC*/ DONEWC*/ L#ONEWC*)
- Increases to ex Australia First/Business Class fares
- Increases to various ex Asia fare levels
- Seasonality removed ex Australia, new year-round fares now set at former High season levels
- Premium Economy Class surcharges increased, and USD removed as a surcharge currency
- Libya added to "Europe/Middle East" continent group (was previously Africa)
- Flight Application (paragraph 4.H) adjusted - "no more than 2 of the free flight segments within Europe/Middle East can be between UK and Libya"
Oneworld Circle Asia and South West Pacific Explorer Fares (AAS**/ DAS**/ LAS**)
- Premium Economy Class surcharges increased, and USD removed as a surcharge currency

 

[opusman]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Increasing business/first fares - what a sensible thing to do, given that hardly anyone is flying business/first at the moment

 

[tuapekastar]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Damn, I was looking at doing it ex-ICN but there goes that plan... it looks like they have gone up a fair bit...

Has anyone done it via Indonesia?

Huge rise ex-ICN! Was considering it for next year, but back to the drawing board!

 

[Keith009]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Huge rise ex-ICN! Was considering it for next year, but back to the drawing board!

For a DONE4 that's an exact 50% increase! :shock:

 

[Evan]

Re: DONE4 pricing

I don't understand why the huge ex-KR rise, are they expecting the currency to fall a lot or simply responding to demand ? Not many XONEx bargains to be had right now, i guess this also see's some point to point return business class fares start to seem reasonable again.

I am tipping ex-Indonesia will be the next one people use, but i have been told its not so easy to ticket from there. At least i am close only a nice cheap $200 LH position flight from SIN. (pity the SGD has also dropped a little recently, atleast against AUD anyway)

 

[Keith009]

Re: DONE4 pricing

I don't understand why the huge ex-KR rise, are they expecting the currency to fall a lot or simply responding to demand ? Not many XONEx bargains to be had right now, i guess this also see's some point to point return business class fares start to seem reasonable again.

ICN (like TPE and MNL) remains an attractive starting point for QF/CX fares to Australia.

I guess they're just responding to 'unnatural' demand here. Similarly abrupt price increases have occurred in the past, most notably CAI and IST. They must have deduced that a lot of the demand generated ex-ICN aren't actually from residents of Korea. Another possibility is currency volatility but note that South African prices haven't been hiked.

 

[beardoc]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Increasing business/first fares - what a sensible thing to do, given that hardly anyone is flying business/first at the moment

I suspect they're going to be winding back on first/business capacity (to increase economy seat numbers), so it's going to be harder to find A/J seats on some popular routes - and they'll be able to warrant the increased charges here. Let's face it, the previous AONE4/DONE4 fares were bargains.

I'm going to have to see whether doing DONE5s via South Africa is in my future. It's a pity, because getting to ICN was a whole lot easier than JNB and if you didn't want to go to Africa, then you could use an xONE3 to get around the northern hemisphere (not so from JNB!).

 

[wandering_fred]

Does this re-wording mean that SEAsia-Oz-HKG-NorthAmerica is now an officially legal routing?

Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except
as follows: ...
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is a transfer without stopover, or on direct single plane service between the Southwest Pacific and Europe.

Wandering through the fine print.....

Fred

 

[Evan]

Does this re-wording mean that SEAsia-Oz-HKG-NorthAmerica is now an officially legal routing?

Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except
as follows: ...
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is a transfer without stopover, or on direct single plane service between the Southwest Pacific and Europe.

Wandering through the fine print.....

Fred

Afraid not, it means... you can pass from Europe direct to Australia, bypassing Asia and then head back to Asia before heading to USA and back to Europe.

 

[medhead]

Does this re-wording mean that SEAsia-Oz-HKG-NorthAmerica is now an officially legal routing?

Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except
as follows: ...
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is a transfer without stopover, or on direct single plane service between the Southwest Pacific and Europe.

Afraid not, it means... you can pass from Europe direct to Australia, bypassing Asia and then head back to Asia before heading to USA and back to Europe.

Surely, that is valid provided that HKG is a transfer without stopover. That would be one intercontinental departure from Asia, an entry and departure on transfer without stopover. And then later, after passing through NA and Europe a reentry to Asia to end the OWE.

 

[JohnK]

Re: DONE4 pricing

Several things happened - the price went up, seasonaity was removed ex-Australia, Premium Economy Surcharges increased and Libya moved

Do we know where they have moved Libya? :shock: Has any other country been inconvenienced by the move?

Oh, you mean Libya has moved for the purposes of a Oneworld itinerary.

 

[coolumbla]

So does anyone think that the prices of a RTW will actually decrease later this year?

Says me looking at paying for 5 of them! :shock:

Unless someone can come up with a cheaper way of getting sydney/china/italy/france/New york over December /JAnuary?


Shane

 

[NM]

So does anyone think that the prices of a RTW will actually decrease later this year?

I can't remember any precedent for a decrease on OneWorld ATW fares, except for the short term promotion recently to celebrate 10 years of OneWorld with a 10% discount.

I would not be expecting any decrease on xONEx fares.