Worst (international) business class seats

A few come to mind -
JL 787 - Apex Suites (2-2-2)
NZ 777/787 - Aisle facing seats - unless you have a foot fetish
EK 777 - Non-refurbished 2-3-2 product
 
Wow, I looked at the OMAAT article and found several old work travel friends there. I thought they were all pretty good after my apprenticeship on PX Y class. The ET product was very similar to the LH one, just with more broken seats. Yeah BA was pretty meh but passable in a window. Can't comment on AI, because they cancelled the outward leg of my KBL-DEL flight, then a couple of weeks later they cancelled the return leg. Any of them was better than whY though.

My least inspiring J flight was probably FRA-TBS-GYD, about 7 hours all up in a LH seat just like the one in the article photo, comprised of what felt like a leather cover over steel bars. They did serve nice meals though, ordered from the smallest menu card I ever saw.

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A few come to mind -
JL 787 - Apex Suites (2-2-2)
NZ 777/787 - Aisle facing seats - unless you have a foot fetish
EK 777 - Non-refurbished 2-3-2 product
I’m curious what it is about the apex suite you don’t like. I’ve flown it on JAL AND Oman Air and apart from limited storage at the seat, it’s one of my favourite J products.
 
When travelling with a partner, I actually really like LH’s seat. Setting aside privacy and footsie issues, the seats themselves are very very comfortable
 
I’m curious what it is about the apex suite you don’t like. I’ve flown it on JAL AND Oman Air and apart from limited storage at the seat, it’s one of my favourite J products.
Totally agree! The apex window seats rival, if not beat, many first class suites in both bed length and a full, unrestricted width with no cubby hole for feet. They weren’t popular with airlines because they take up - IIRC - something like 30% more space than any other business class seat. Bad for economics, but good for passengers!
 

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