Windows 7 versus Windows vista Versus Mac OSx

[serfty]

Should I upgrade my home PC from OS/2?

Certainly an idea, but it might slow down the home PC a little.:shock:

 

[anat0l]

Should I upgrade my home PC from OS/2?

*shudder* :-| (we need a smilie that represents a shudder)


Add that to the "mistake" list....


If you're looking for a replacement, I'd recommend Linux.

 

[anat0l]

Silly question, but does anyone here have a downloaded copy of Windows 7 RC?

Downloads have closed now. Oddly enough, MS still had no problems giving me a key.

 

[notzac]

Give me one common user operating system that actually works and takes advantage of the full capabilities of the 64-bit architectural platform.

Apple - Mac OS X - New technologies in Snow Leopard

(Most of the core components of Mac OSX Leopard are 64 bit; Snow Leopard will be completely 64 bit.)

Silly question, but does anyone here have a downloaded copy of Windows 7 RC?

Pretty sure I do - will look for it when I get home

 

[Flashback]

Silly question, but does anyone here have a downloaded copy of Windows 7 RC?

Downloads have closed now. Oddly enough, MS still had no problems giving me a key.

Yep, can post you a copy if you like.

 

[skytrain]

I like my Mac

 

[simongr]

I like my Mac

I like your mac and my 3 macs...

Mac OSX? Isn't that just Linux for babies and fruitcakes?

simongr = 38 years old <> baby
simongr <> fruitcake (by most colloquial definitions)

Personally i have heard a number of mac biased people saying that W7 is an acceptable OS. Obviously it will have the inherent problem of being targetted by hackers et al that the most the most popular OS has - and obviously will have the most affordable defense programs as well.

My main issue with MS is that when I do basic stuff on the mac (new camera/phone/mouse etc.) it just works - but for MS based OSes it is install x, plug in y etc.

I just want things to work and it finally seems that MS is beginning to understand that.

Now if only hardware vendors would get on board and design things that fit in my house rather than a lab they might even get a sale...

 

[Nigelinoz]

A client of mine purchased 60 new pc's from a hardware vendor when Vista was released,within 3 weeks he was on the phone begging them to help him format the hard drives so he could "downgrade" to XP.
He cites Vista as the most non user friendly technology he has ever come across.

 

[anat0l]

My main issue with MS is that when I do basic stuff on the mac (new camera/phone/mouse etc.) it just works - but for MS based OSes it is install x, plug in y etc.

The main problem is that M$ has pretty poor checking and procedures about how hardware drivers etc. are written. It doesn't check the quality of them, people who write Windows drivers are lazy and that causes all sorts of funky sh**e, the most common of the severe is poking memory which it shouldn't, causing blue screens of all sorts. This is one biggie as to why Vista failed, apart from all the other UI annoyances (e.g. UAC, which is basically a more annoying version of Linux's/UNIX's sudo command).

I guess the blame really goes on the vendors for writing lousy drivers with several programming faults (some of these faults are also responsible for security exploits), but since Windows is the front-end to all of this, then of course the M$ OS is always to blame.

Macs (or Apple) support less hardware than PCs, but inevitably do a better job ensuring that the hardware does talk to the Mac better and without many problems.

Linux is also getting that way mainly because the freelancers that write the drivers do a good job at it. Hence hardware "just works". The cheese is when you have hardware that isn't supported and you either have to apply a similar driver that provides some compatibility, or you have to write your own driver (and the latter is never fun).

I just want things to work and it finally seems that MS is beginning to understand that.

I don't think M$ will ever achieve "just works" status until hardware vendors write better drivers and software developers write programs that actually start neatly and clean up after themselves.

Basically, almost every program for Windows was written by an idiot; at best, it was written by the lowest bidder. Almost every program written for MacOS or Linux was written by someone that actually has a brain. I'm not joking.


But FWIW, most people are buying notebooks these days. In these cases, no matter if the OS is Mac, Windows or Linux, all the drivers for the hardware is there and set up properly. So all the user has to worry about are peripheral devices - digital cameras, printers, mice, USB drives, etc. Most of these under Windows work fine, except for perhaps printers, which continue to sport ill-written drivers and software.

 

[Evan]

Vista did get better as time went on but it started a complete mess !
In any case Windows 7 seems like it could be a good thing. But my work machine is still XP and not unhappy about that really. It just works.

I like OSX but just can't bring myself to move over yet.

Since i play with Unix systems all day i am more than comfortable using Linux for specific tasks, but as a desktop OS, never since 2004 i think that i have used Linux has it been on my main desktop. I need a system to be usable with all things including projectors and different screens where the resolution changes just happen and work.