which qf domestic a332 j config is this?

[Danger]

You are on EBM/N. Recliners with in-arm IFE in J. Panasonic system.

QANTAS Airbus A330-200 36J/265Y Seat Map

Sounds to me like a domestic configuration with recliner seats in J and seatback IFE in all classes.

Thank you both. I see we have a tie on the IFE: seatback or in-arm?

If it is seatback does this mean the J seat is the same as what's on similar A332 aircraft except J seating is AB DF JK? That is, it's not ex-JQ and it's not Skybed and it's not the new config so is it's, well, the other one?

 

[Mattg]

Thank you both. I see we have a tie on the IFE: seatback or in-arm?

If it is seatback does this mean the J seat is the same as what's on similar aircraft except J seating is AB DF JK? That is, it's not ex-JQ and it's not Skybed and it's not the new config so is it's, well, the other one?

When I said seat-back IFE I really meant AVOD. As in, not iPads. Sorry, there are so many different A330 configurations out there that I've almost lost track.

I flew on EBN a couple of months ago. I was in Y so don't recall what the IFE setup in J was, but I remember what the J seats looked like. You're correct - they're not Skybed seats, not suites and it's not an ex-JQ bird. The seats are the regular Qantas A330 domestic recliners. Reasonably comfortable but obviously not a lie-flat bed.

 

[Danger]

When I said seat-back IFE I really meant AVOD. As in, not iPads. Sorry, there are so many different A330 configurations out there that I've almost lost track.

I flew on EBN a couple of months ago. I was in Y so don't recall what the IFE setup in J was, but I remember what the J seats looked like. You're correct - they're not Skybed seats, not suites and it's not an ex-JQ bird. The seats are the regular Qantas A330 domestic recliners. Reasonably comfortable but obviously not a lie-flat bed.

Beauty. Thank you. I didn't know there were any in-arm AVODs left in QF (except for the exit rows).

On the upside I think I may now have all I need to complete my QF A3xx config table. I will post soon, all going to plan.

 

[Danger]

Well that took less time than I thought.

I know I've posted one of these drafts somewhere else earlier this year but there's so many threads on the topics . . .



Thoughts? Corrections?

 

[Mattg]

Love this. I would add a few points.

On the A332 int config, there is a galley between rows 3 & 4 of J.

I flew on EBK recently which is a refurbished A332. There were a couple of rows of business class behind the galley that made up rows 7 & 8 of J. Also, I'm not sure exactly what the IFE in Y on this aircraft was but I recall someone saying they were iPads with Q-Streaming.

It might also be worth noting that the new J suites on the A332 are leather seats, while on the A333 they are covered in cloth.

A final comment is that it may be useful to include the regos of all the aircraft that fall into each category - though I realise that is subject to change as more aircraft are refurbished.

 

[mannej]

Thank you both. I see we have a tie on the IFE: seatback or in-arm?

If it is seatback does this mean the J seat is the same as what's on similar A332 aircraft except J seating is AB DF JK? That is, it's not ex-JQ and it's not Skybed and it's not the new config so is it's, well, the other one?

Definitely in-arm - Aussie Flyer: The Battle of The Transcontinental Business Class : Virgin Australia vs Qantas (Part 2)

 

[Danger]

Love this. I would add a few points.

On the A332 int config, there is a galley between rows 3 & 4 of J.

I flew on EBK recently which is a refurbished A332. There were a couple of rows of business class behind the galley that made up rows 7 & 8 of J. Also, I'm not sure exactly what the IFE in Y on this aircraft was but I recall someone saying they were iPads with Q-Streaming.

It might also be worth noting that the new J suites on the A332 are leather seats, while on the A333 they are covered in cloth.

A final comment is that it may be useful to include the regos of all the aircraft that fall into each category - though I realise that is subject to change as more aircraft are refurbished.

Okay. Thanks. I've updated the table and I've added cell references (A to G and 1 to 8) to make it easier for people to suggest changes. For example, cell D8 should read . . . I also note we don't have a discerning feature between the A332 new and A333 new.

Definitely in-arm - Aussie Flyer: The Battle of The Transcontinental Business Class : Virgin Australia vs Qantas (Part 2)

Grrrr. They're awful. My imminent flight went from A332 new to this. Disappointing.

 

[Mattg]

Okay. Thanks. I've updated the table and I've added cell references (A to G and 1 to 8) to make it easier for people to suggest changes. For example, cell D8 should read . . . I also note we don't have a discerning feature between the A332 new and A333 new.

The difference between A332 and A333 new - the A332s have leather seats while the A333s have cloth seats. Also, the new A332s have an additional 2 rows (well, actually one and a half) behind the galley, giving 8 rows in total.

Other comments:
D8 - Y IFE on new A332s is iPads with Q streaming. (This may differ on EBS and EBV, which are marked as domestic/international but I'm not sure)

Regos:
F3 - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
F4 - EBG, EBI, EBL
F5 - EBC, EBD
F6 - QPE, QPF, QPG, QPH, QPJ
F7 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPI
F8 - EBA, EBB, EBF, EBJ, EBK. Also EBS and EBV though these are internationally configured refurb'ed A332s.

 

[Danger]

The difference between A332 and A333 new - the A332s have leather seats while the A333s have cloth seats. Also, the new A332s have an additional 2 rows (well, actually one and a half) behind the galley, giving 8 rows in total.

Other comments:
D8 - Y IFE on new A332s is iPads with Q streaming. (This may differ on EBS and EBV, which are marked as domestic/international but I'm not sure)

Regos:
F3 - EBO, EBP, EBQ, EBR
F4 - EBG, EBI, EBL
F5 - EBC, EBD
F6 - QPE, QPF, QPG, QPH, QPJ
F7 - QPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPI
F8 - EBA, EBB, EBF, EBJ, EBK. Also EBS and EBV though these are internationally configured refurb'ed A332s.

Great. I've made those changes. I also changed E7 to six rows rather than seven as you mentioned that the A332 new has "an additional two rows". Correct?

You mention "internationally configured A332s". It sounds like I need yet another column, yeah? What sets these apart?

 

[Mattg]

Great. I've made those changes. I also changed E7 to six rows rather than seven as you mentioned that the A332 new has "an additional two rows". Correct?

You mention "internationally configured A332s". It sounds like I need yet another column, yeah? What sets these apart?

Your original E7 was correct - seven rows of J on new A333. The forward cabin is slightly larger on the A333, so they are able to fit in an extra row in front of the galley.

Let's leave column 8 as it is for now - I thought that the IFE may be different on EBV and EBS but actually no, I think they also have iPads in Y.

 

[moa999]

While Col 5 is labelled ex-JQ - EBC/EBD were actually delivered new to Qantas in 2003 in that Config (same seats as 767), and went to Jetstar in 2006 - maybe just call it Really Old Config.

Of the remaining non-reconfig planes, EBQ/EBR were delivered direct to Jetstar as 2x3x2 (so this is the real JQ Config but EBO/EBP the same)

Col 8 needs to be split into Col8 and 9, as EBS/EBV have Panasonic seatback IFE in Y (there will ultimately be 10 330-200s with iPads in Y and 8 with Seatback IFE)

Also to get specific on seat types B2 Recaro, B3 Silverwing, B5 Millenium (I think), B7/B8 Vantage XL

 

[Chrizztofa]

Regos:
F4 - EBG, EBI, EBL

Hasn't EBI been withdrawn?

 

[Mattg]

Col 8 needs to be split into Col8 and 9, as EBS/EBV have Panasonic seatback IFE in Y (there will ultimately be 10 330-200s with iPads in Y and 8 with Seatback IFE)

So the IFE is different... Thanks for confirming.

Hasn't EBI been withdrawn?

Quite right. Good pickup.

 

[Danger]

Okay. Thank you both.

Please check I've updated correctly. In the next day or so I will create a new column to reflect the differences moa999 points out. Any ideas how these two configs (the new columns eight and nine that reflect the difference in Y IFE) can be distinguished from the seatmap? My aim all along was to create a reference so people could determine the features of their aircraft by looking at the seatmap, in advance of booking or at least flying.

 

[moa999]

Unfortunately I don't believe there is away to tell the difference between the reconfigured 330-200s .

Probably also worth adding EBE to F8 (it's reconfig is almost complete and it is apparently scheduled to fly on Wed from BNE to SIN to be repainted from JQ to New Roo). That way you then have all 28 regos in fleet.
(Am guessing EBC/EBD might replace it in maintenance being the next worst product)

Also probably worth swapping columns 4 and 5 so the three older domestic configs are all together.

 

[Danger]

Okay. I think we're there.

 

[moa999]

Small change..
9D (and indeed 2D,3D) should be Panasonic 9" ex2 IFE, as the IFE is unchanged from initial delivery (same IFE in A380).
2C,3C will also be ex2 but unsure about screen sizes

Source: australianaviation.com.au/2009/12/qantas-takes-new-domestic-a330/

7D is correct, the A330-300s get new seats with 11" exLite IFE

7C, 8C, 9C are 16" ex3 screens

 

[Mattg]

I think you've just about covered everything now! (And wow, the current A330 situation really is a mess..)

 

[Danger]

Okay. Great. New update.

 

[moa999]

From looking at Qantas Source appears that the worst Config (column 4) or EBC/EBD are being mostly used on MEL-SYD runs with only a few visits to PER over the last couple of weeks.