Which cards have you applied for this year (2016)?

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I would guess as he says Nov/Dec that this was with the various Amex cashbacks. ie spend $300 at Harvey Norman get $100 back etc,

Correct. In Nov/Dec I had 13 Amex cards including Amex issued, Amex issued to family members, supp cards and bank issued.

Credits were made up of $1300 from Harvey Norman, just under $1300 from Westfield/Myer/First Choice/Mobile Wallet, just over $1000 in Shop Small credits, just under $400 from Boccacio Cellars in Click Frenzy deal, $250 from Bob Jane offer (should have saved to more cards as our other car needs new tyres as well)

Westfield cards are all used (I bought red and found they work anywhere). I have $2.5k in Coles Myer cards left to use, am thinking about trying to convert these to prepaid visa's. My local Target and Officeworks offer prepaid cards for $250/$200 with a 3% load fee. I expect these could be purchased with Coles Myer cards assuming I don't let checkout operator see what I am using. Oh, and I have a lot of beer, wine and champagne to go through!

The downside is now if I wake anytime after 3am I have an urge to check Amex app for any new offers!
 
Yup, the day you find out Westfield cards are just bog standard eftpos cards :), ive used them at places like kmart/bigw to buy prepaids and also stack on flybuys/woolies points. Not much but easy way to burn them through, especially with any added statement offers etc
 
Yup, the day you find out Westfield cards are just bog standard eftpos cards :), ive used them at places like kmart/bigw to buy prepaids and also stack on flybuys/woolies points. Not much but easy way to burn them through, especially with any added statement offers etc


Wow I never knew this... this is really good to know!
 
Mine
Velocity

Amex Explorer 82500 $395
ANZ Adventurer 60000 $225

Qantas
Westpac Altitude Platinum 50000 $0
ANZ Black 75000 $0
Woolworths Qantas Plat 40000 $99

Amex Qantas 100000 $450

Should net 142,500 velocity and 265,000 Qantas points for ~$1150, including 1 return virgin flight, 1 return Qantas flight, 2 lounge passes for each, and $400 travel credit.

Partner
Velocity
Amex Explorer 82500 $395
ANZ Adventurer 60000 $225 (DECLINED)

Qantas
Westpac Altitude Platinum 50000 $0
Woolworths Qantas Plat 40000 $99 (DECLINED)

So 82,500 velocity and 50,000 Qantas points for $395 including $400 travel credit

Not happy about the declined cards, especially ANZ adventurer as we wanted the return flight. Now I have 2 flights on my own!

Want my partner to sign up with AMEX Qantas but after the declined am concerned about wrecking rating.

Around 575,000 points in total once you account for minimum spend, then 15,000 velocity from memory for referring partner to the Explorer. I have a fair whack to pay off this month, around $12k! Though am prepaid on electricity, rates, phone etc for a while which is good.
 
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Applied for and still have


  • ANZ Frequent Flyer Black 75k Qantas
  • ANZ Rewards Travel Adventure 60k Velocity
  • Westpac Altitude Black 50k Qantas
Applied for and cancelled

  • NAB 75k Velocity
Other

  • 23k AMEX points for calling and asking to cancel my Platinum Edge card.
Total:
125k Qantas
135k Velocity
23k AMEX
 
Just got into the credit card bonus game


Well said. It is a game. They play with your credit file and you play with taking their points for as little as possible outlay.


Applied for and still have


  • ANZ Frequent Flyer Black 75k Qantas
  • ANZ Rewards Travel Adventure 60k Velocity
  • Westpac Altitude Black 50k Qantas
Applied for and cancelled

  • NAB 75k Velocity
Other

  • 23k AMEX points for calling and asking to cancel my Platinum Edge card.
Total:
125k Qantas
135k Velocity
23k AMEX

Suggest you cancel any of these where the points have already posted and move onto the next offer.
St George has a free points deal and many of the AMEX offerings (Explorer is my suggestion to you) have great points ATM and some expire at the end of this month.

If I can offer any advice it's not to hang onto any card once the points have posted. Don't feel any sense of obligation or loyalty to the bank. Cancel and move on instantly.
 
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Well said. It is a game.



Suggest you cancel any of these where the points have already posted and move onto the next offer.

St George has a free points deal and many of the AMEX offerings (Explorer is my suggestion to you) have great points ATM and some expire at the end of this month.

If I can offer any advice it's not to hang onto any card once the points have posted. Don't feel any sense of obligation or loyalty to the bank. Cancel and move on instantly.

Hi Dr Ralph thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. i actually i haven't yet received the points for the ANZ rewards and the Westpac, but should drop in any week now, and then i'll definitely axe them. The ANZ black is my daily visa spend, and then i also have a AMEX platinum edge for my amex/supermarket spend. I'm guess that since i already have an AMEX issued card i can't apply for any of the current AMEX offers? will also check out the st george offer :)
 
I'm guess that since i already have an AMEX issued card i can't apply for any of the current AMEX offers?

No. You can definitely apply for more direct AMEX cards based on what you have said.

You can hold an AMEX platinum edge card + at least an AMEX Explorer (as an example). But I urge you to act quickly. The current very generous offer for the AMEX Explorer expires January 30.

Don't forget to use a referral link to get additional points as a sign on bonus. Referral links located here (mine is in message #69):

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....can-express-explorer-referrals-now-79058.html
 
Suggest you cancel any of these where the points have already posted and move onto the next offer. They play with your credit file and you play with taking their points for as little as possible outlay.

Hey Dr, what do you mean they play with your credit file if you hold onto your credit card?
 
Got a CA Gold Amex and Qantas Amex, think I can apply for the explorer one?
 
Hey Dr, what do you mean they play with your credit file if you hold onto your credit card?

Thats not what I intended to say. What I intended to say was that it's all a game. They play the game by playin gwith your credit rating. You play the game by taking the points for as little money as possible.
 
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If I can offer any advice it's not to hang onto any card once the points have posted. Don't feel any sense of obligation or loyalty to the bank. Cancel and move on instantly.

You obviously have a strategy that suits your circumstances and requirements. However I believe that in the FF world that it is not a one size fits all approach. There is no one best approach, but yes there is a best approach for each of us.

I do believe that virtually all, if not all, FF Point Hunters should churn at least to some degree, and for many in a major way. However there are reasons why that for some holding on to particular cards makes sense. Churning in minimum time may be good, but not always and not on all cards. And indeed for many Point Hunters there will be cards that should be kept and not churned. So for many cards can be divided into "Keepers" and "Churners". These reasons include both "earn" and "burn" of points, but not just points are important.

So I would suggest to all the FF Point Hunters out there to consider their circumstances and to develop a card strategy tailored to their requirements.

Such reasons include, but are not limited to:

- Promotion wise Amex at present has many cashback promotions. These can be quite lucrative. So for example to hold an Amex issued card, with Supps maximised can be quite lucrative.
- Credit Card Insurance:
- One might use this to save the expense of paid insurance. some cards are easily activated. But regardless you need to hold the card from first significant non-refundable expense till return from trip
- Particular travel expenses such as Car Hire in Europe are bettered covered by some cards
- Taking advantage of point transfer promotions
- Warehousing points
- Keeping points on some cards can allow one to take advantage of different airline redemption promotions
- Some people such as myself make use of FF programs where the points once transferred have a limited life. Warehousing allows one to keep that clock on hold
- Point earn from spend. Various cards and types of spend allow one to maximise one earn. Some people have particular spend such as ATO which needs certain cards to optimise that spend
- Referrals. If you are new to Amex you may well have a number of family, friends and work colleagues that may generate referral points for you (as well as larger sign-on bonii for them).
- Preferred FF Program. Some are hard to get points to. So keeping cards that allow earn for that can attractive.
- Other financial aspects of you life. About to seeka major home loan, start a business etc? If so think carefully about very high churning of cards.

And there are various other reasons such as lower international transaction cost, lounge access, hotel memberships etc.

So to the Point Hunters out there, and in particular to those new at the game, I would suggest that you consider what YOU value, and develop a card strategy that works best on balance for all of YOUR requirements.
 
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No. You can definitely apply for more direct AMEX cards based on what you have said.

You can hold an AMEX platinum edge card + at least an AMEX Explorer (as an example). But I urge you to act quickly. The current very generous offer for the AMEX Explorer expires January 30.

Don't forget to use a referral link to get additional points as a sign on bonus. Referral links located here (mine is in message #69):

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....can-express-explorer-referrals-now-79058.html


Would I still be eligible for the bonus points even if I hold a Amex Velocity? Ive been tempted but havent read through the fine prints (lazy, I know).

I had a big hickup with Bankwest, ended up telling them to keep their card. Filled in online but form did not work properly, so I rang up and did an application over the phone. Gets emails etc. All fine and signed and then I get the wrong card in the mail! Call them again, and according to them I filled out an application online. So they gave me a card I didnt want even though I was approved for the Bankwest Mastercard World. Then they wanted me to transfer to the new card... nice try, but that makes me ineligible for the bonus Qantas points. Then all of a sudden I would not get points anyway... so at that point I sent them a message and told them to keep it... in a nice way though.

Went to NAB, filled out the form and was approved 2 hours later, card is in the mail and I am one step closer to 75,000 QP.

I also have the ANZ Rewards Black... does that mean that I cant apply for the ANZ Qantas Black and get the bonus points?
 
Would I still be eligible for the bonus points even if I hold a Amex Velocity?

Yes.

AFF Member experience reported regularly is that you can earn a sign-on bonus if you have an existing Amex as long as the Award Program is different. Velocity and Gateway MR are different.

Ive been tempted but havent read through the fine prints (lazy, I know).

It is more what occurs, rather than the fine print allowing it. Go for it, but remember the promo ends soon.
 
VEDA etc are not really that important for cc applications, but for other aspects of your financial life it may be. So yes churn, but please consider your overall financial situation as well and not just the FF points if you are going to be a major churner. Just churning several cards per year I personally would see as no issue, and indeed would help to create a good credit history as long as you always pay your cards off in time.
Can agree with that - have had a lean 18 months after being knocked back by Silver Doughnut and a couple of others. My VEDA had crashed and burned.
Reducing my overall credit limit down from 250k [13 cards] to a more plausible two cards has helped.
I'm back in the game with three new cards [$500] across all family members and sitting on 250,000 points once I meet the spend criteria. Happy days
 
Would I still be eligible for the bonus points even if I hold a Amex Velocity? Ive been tempted but havent read through the fine prints (lazy, I know).
For the explorer card? Definitely as these are different schemes. You do need to act quickly though.
 
My wife and I have also recently begun recently playing this game. Love this thread, its one of the more valuable ones we've discovered.

Myself
HSBC Qantas 60,000 $200
Amex Qantas Platinum 110,000 $450 (offset by a free Melb -> Bris trip later this year)
ANZ Black Qantas 75,000 free

My Wife
Amex Qantas Platinum 110,000 $450 (offset by a free Melb -> Bris trip later this year)
ANZ Black Qantas 75,000 free

Next
Still determining - the St George card 30k points for free looks intersting

Interestingly, the accumulation of points appears easier than spending them in an efficient way/where we want to travel. To combat that we've just started tackling the Status level problem - I am Silver (and having difficulty hanging onto that) and my wife is still bronze. How we quickly build up status points to make sure we can spend our points is a challenge.
 
My wife and I have also recently begun recently playing this game. Love this thread, its one of the more valuable ones we've discovered.

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Interestingly, the accumulation of points appears easier than spending them in an efficient way/where we want to travel. To combat that we've just started tackling the Status level problem - I am Silver (and having difficulty hanging onto that) and my wife is still bronze. How we quickly build up status points to make sure we can spend our points is a challenge.

If you're focussing on Qantas them status really helps - I had WP for a few years and the extra FF availability made a difference. I moved from Qantas earning to an Amex focus with the flexibility of other programs. Never looked back.
 
How we quickly build up status points to make sure we can spend our points is a challenge.

If you were not already aware and are after QF Status credits, there is a double status credit offer on right now - expires tomorrow night. Have a look at the Qantas thread.
 
In the US I will activate a Costco Citibank card and I have applied for a Chase Sapphire CC as it has a 50,000 Kris Miles sign on.
With the looming Reserve Bank changes I expect to cancel more Australian CCs this year as I have most other than NAB and CBA. I am enjoying Bankwest World.
I saw Amex Ultimate is getting a better points earn on a few things and I have received the Amex Platinum Edge CCs this past week.
 
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