What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individual ?

[RWJ777]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

No points are awarded, just SCs, pretty simple, and no doubt annoying to the odd public worker.

Apparently both QF and DJ were opposed to the Aust Govt procurement which prohibited FF points but the govt made it a condition of participation and they relented to get access to the mega contracts which includes Defence etc. So no FF points for HM loyal Australian officials or military personnel ( not sure about pollies)! This was reported in the media at the time.

 

[Simo]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Yep then we would have a huge drop in the amount of people in J lounges and Flounges.

I am fully self funded so could not care less.

Except for one flight and I charge the client the rate of the day with no specials but I got special for that trip.

Mt Isa trips are always expensive so it didn't matter that much

 

[amaroo]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Apparently both QF and DJ were opposed to the Aust Govt procurement which prohibited FF points but the govt made it a condition of participation and they relented to get access to the mega contracts which includes Defence etc. So no FF points for HM loyal Australian officials or military personnel ( not sure about pollies)! This was reported in the media at the time.

Given the routing the HM for Fisher (AKA Slippery Pete) uses to get from the Sunshine Coast to Canberra - I'm betting he's getting full points.

He could do MCY-SYD-CBR

or,

drive to BNE & then BNE-CBR

But likes to do,

drive to BNE & then BNE-SYD-CBR & the same trip home!

Our money - not well spent:evil::evil::evil:

 

[RWJ777]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Given the routing the HM for Fisher (AKA Slippery Pete) uses to get from the Sunshine Coast to Canberra - I'm betting he's getting full points.

He could do MCY-SYD-CBR

or,

drive to BNE & then BNE-CBR

But likes to do,

drive to BNE & then BNE-SYD-CBR & the same trip home!

Our money - not well spent:evil::evil::evil:

I don't know that there are that many direct flights between the Berra and Brissie but interesting nonetheless. Wouldn't be too much self-driving to Brisbane either I should imagine.

 

[amaroo]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

I don't know that there are that many direct flights between the Berra and Brissie but interesting nonetheless. Wouldn't be too much self-driving to Brisbane either I should imagine.

Google him......you'll see the massive amount this fool is costing the nation.

 

[simongr]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Yep then we would have a huge drop in the amount of people in J lounges and Flounges.

I am fully self funded so could not care less.

Except for one flight and I charge the client the rate of the day with no specials but I got special for that trip.

Mt Isa trips are always expensive so it didn't matter that much

So you only have had one business related trip?

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

1) What if your company/boss books you in Y with SQ or JQ, where in some buckets, you don't earn points/SC's/miles?
2) There was someone on AFF a while ago, who was a Gov employee. They earned SC's, but not points.

 

[medhead]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Given the routing the HM for Fisher (AKA Slippery Pete) uses to get from the Sunshine Coast to Canberra - I'm betting he's getting full points.

He could do MCY-SYD-CBR

or,

drive to BNE & then BNE-CBR

But likes to do,

drive to BNE & then BNE-SYD-CBR & the same trip home!

Our money - not well spent:evil::evil::evil:

On the way to CBR that is entirely reasonable given the timetable. A random check on flights for next week shows the price difference between direct and via SYD is minimal, in fact some options via SYD are cheaper than some direct options.. I really don't think this is a fair criticism.

 

[fersea]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Apparently both QF and DJ were opposed to the Aust Govt procurement which prohibited FF points but the govt made it a condition of participation and they relented to get access to the mega contracts which includes Defence etc. So no FF points for HM loyal Australian officials or military personnel ( not sure about pollies)! This was reported in the media at the time.

It has changed in recent times. Previously flights were booked as normal (often through a agent such as QBT but you weren't allowed to use FF points for personal use. You either had to forfeit them or use them for other business trips. I think you could probably often get away with keeping them but potentially it could cost you your job.

Recently there was a whole of govt procurement run by the department of Finance whereby there are prices offered by all airlines that don't accrue FF points. Status credits do apply. IMO it is now a better system. Govt and hence the taxpayer get cheaper pricing and as a traveller it is easy because you can provide your FF number and not have to worry about keeping points separate or handing them back.

Interesting that when Qantas was grounded any of the free flights were marked as Commonwealth property and unable to be used for personal purposes.


A lot of people say public servants get lots of perks but I would argue we are prevented from getting many of the perks that are standard practice in the private sector.

 

[smeacs]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

I once got a flight paid for by the federal government ( I am not an employee) and yes , no points just status.

 

[fersea]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Given the routing the HM for Fisher (AKA Slippery Pete) uses to get from the Sunshine Coast to Canberra - I'm betting he's getting full points.

He could do MCY-SYD-CBR

or,

drive to BNE & then BNE-CBR

But likes to do,

drive to BNE & then BNE-SYD-CBR & the same trip home!

Our money - not well spent:evil::evil::evil:

Politicians and there staff are not public servants. They do get FF points but are encouraged to to use them for other business trips but rarely do. The emount of points used is reported by the Department of Finance and is publically available.

 

[RWJ777]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

It has changed in recent times. Previously flights were booked as normal (often through a agent such as QBT but you weren't allowed to use FF points for personal use. You either had to forfeit them or use them for other business trips. I think you could probably often get away with keeping them but potentially it could cost you your job.

Recently there was a whole of govt procurement run by the department of Finance whereby there are prices offered by all airlines that don't accrue FF points. Status credits do apply. IMO it is now a better system. Govt and hence the taxpayer get cheaper pricing and as a traveller it is easy because you can provide your FF number and not have to worry about keeping points separate or handing them back.

Interesting that when Qantas was grounded any of the free flights were marked as Commonwealth property and unable to be used for personal purposes.


A lot of people say public servants get lots of perks but I would argue we are prevented from getting many of the perks that are standard practice in the private sector.

The super aside ;-)

 

[fersea]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

I once got a flight paid for by the federal government ( I am not an employee) and yes , no points just status.

I imagine that was in the last year or two. Previously you would have and as you are not employed under the Public service Act were not required to hand them back.

 

[fersea]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

The super aside ;-)

Well even that has changed in recent times. Since 1 July 2005 new starters don't get the risk free benefits of a defined benefit scheme but admittedly the rate for the defined contribution scheme is 15.4% as opposed to the standard 9%.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Politicians and there staff are not public servants. They do get FF points but are encouraged to to use them for other business trips but rarely do. The emount of points used is reported by the Department of Finance and is publically available.

And CL membership, possibly Virgins new Invite+ tier too (or whatever it will be called), will also be a perk. Having said that, this information is already available to the public.

 

[Boris spatsky]

Having worked in the past for a govt agency for 15 years and travelling in that job to the US in J at least 4 times a year, i can tell you that not getting the points hurts!! Zero points in 15 years, yet averaging about 2500 SCs on QF alone. Plenty of corporate friends sending their families on corporate FF point holidays - and my wife getting no benefit for all the travel i did. Made it very hard to justify those trips to the family...

 

[Hvr]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

The norm for many government agencies is no points but accrue status.

How does that actually work? - do people belong to QFF and get credited with SC's but somehow the points are diverted by Qantas to a central pool?

No points are awarded, just SCs, pretty simple, and no doubt annoying to the odd public worker.

Well given that it is public money being used then a little thing called the FMA Act comes into play. It is quite right that FF points are not awarded for government travel. Now if only the pollies (from both main persuasions) would agree to abide by the rules they insist that public servants are rightly required to abide by.

 

[Danger]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

Politicians and there staff are not public servants. They do get FF points but are encouraged to to use them for other business trips but rarely do. The emount of points used is reported by the Department of Finance and is publically available.

Well given that it is public money being used then a little thing called the FMA Act comes into play. It is quite right that FF points are not awarded for government travel. Now if only the pollies (from both main persuasions) would agree to abide by the rules they insist that public servants are rightly required to abide by.

Federal politicians do not earn Qantas or Virgin frequent flyer points. Their staff are in the same boat.

 

[elbarto]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

How does that actually work? - do people belong to QFF and get credited with SC's but somehow the points are diverted by Qantas to a central pool?

There's an inhibitor in the booking that prevents the posting of points. Apparently it can be removed.

Apparently both QF and DJ were opposed to the Aust Govt procurement which prohibited FF points but the govt made it a condition of participation and they relented to get access to the mega contracts which includes Defence etc. So no FF points for HM loyal Australian officials or military personnel ( not sure about pollies)! This was reported in the media at the time.

QF and DJ probably could have played hardball on the domestic side, as the government wouldn't have any other options to fulfill its travel needs. But on international travel, completely different story.

 

[Hvr]

Re: What if Corporate travel points were awarded to the company and not the individua

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QF and DJ probably could have played hardball on the domestic side, as the government wouldn't have any other options to fulfill its travel needs. But on international travel, completely different story.

Why would QF and DJ play hardball? It is to their benefit that no points are awarded for flights. Less liability accruing and don't have to worry about organisations wanting to redeem them if they were awarded to the payer.