Warm Winter Jacket advice

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Just wondering, what makes a jacket windproof, rainproof is not enough is it?

If it is rainproof, it should also be windproof (depending on material etc.). The problem might be that it is TOO proof and when you perspire, there is a layer of sweat gathering on the inside of the jacket. This then gets absorbed my your clothes, cools down and its like walking around with an ice-pack jacket.
I used to get a fleece lined (or with fleece jacket lining that could be detached) gore-tex or similar, which is wind and rainproof and also a material that breathes.
 
Thanks for the replies and explanations. That link is very useful. Turns out my original Mont Hydronaute is pretty good. Mont is a great manufacturer here in CBR.

If it is rainproof, it should also be windproof (depending on material etc.). The problem might be that it is TOO proof and when you perspire, there is a layer of sweat gathering on the inside of the jacket. This then gets absorbed my your clothes, cools down and its like walking around with an ice-pack jacket.
I used to get a fleece lined (or with fleece jacket lining that could be detached) gore-tex or similar, which is wind and rainproof and also a material that breathes.

It can certainly get confusing reading all the sales pitch by various brands. This is an article from Paddy Pallin that seemed to have a bit of useful info re waterproof » ALL ABOUT WATERPROOF FABRICS
 
I had a bit of walk around Melbourne last weekend only to find there is no longer a Columbia store in Little Bourke St!

Anyways, the most suitable jacket I have found so far was the Patagonia Tres (three-in-one for those keen on layering). $699 at Paddy Pallin so well within budget. Food for thought - and fortunately I have plenty of thinking time.
 
Ah, a Sorrel snob. So many of them cos no one sells decent snow boots here :p
Try Kamiks and tell me when you are selling your Sorrels. 1/3 the price, half the weight, superior performance.
Though you wouldn't notice in an aussie "winter" anyway. ;P

My 2c on the gear- all of the above is relatively accurate and will keep you warm. I'd do the single layer and huge coat thing if you are mostly idoors, or being very active outdoors. Of course those jackets would be different. I'd go a puffy down for city/non rainy stuff.
I prefer 700-800+weight down but this is just the loft, not the insulation. Make sure it has a goodly amount of down actually inside it. 10g of 800 loft ain't got anything on 100g of 700, it's what many people don't realise. The difference is in how light it will be for given Xg of insulation. Higher is lighter.

Above roseanna said waterproof should be wind proof. Completely wrong, things can easily be one or another or half half. They also trade off breathability unfortunately.

-10 isn't too bad, it all comes down to the winds. I reckon you'll be ace in a good downie for nowhere near $1000, esp if you can find a sale. Marmot make decent gear at a lower price. And the absolute best- Alpkit. You will not beat their price:quality ratio, similar quality to cheaper brands but about 25-30% of the cost as the direct sell, no wholesalers (outdoor gear markups around 100% or so in AU).
 
Ah, a Sorrel snob. So many of them cos no one sells decent snow boots here :p
Try Kamiks and tell me when you are selling your Sorrels. 1/3 the price, half the weight, superior performance.
Though you wouldn't notice in an aussie "winter" anyway. ;P

My 2c on the gear- all of the above is relatively accurate and will keep you warm. I'd do the single layer and huge coat thing if you are mostly idoors, or being very active outdoors. Of course those jackets would be different. I'd go a puffy down for city/non rainy stuff.
I prefer 700-800+weight down but this is just the loft, not the insulation. Make sure it has a goodly amount of down actually inside it. 10g of 800 loft ain't got anything on 100g of 700, it's what many people don't realise. The difference is in how light it will be for given Xg of insulation. Higher is lighter.

Above roseanna said waterproof should be wind proof. Completely wrong, things can easily be one or another or half half. They also trade off breathability unfortunately.

-10 isn't too bad, it all comes down to the winds. I reckon you'll be ace in a good downie for nowhere near $1000, esp if you can find a sale. Marmot make decent gear at a lower price. And the absolute best- Alpkit. You will not beat their price:quality ratio, similar quality to cheaper brands but about 25-30% of the cost as the direct sell, no wholesalers (outdoor gear markups around 100% or so in AU).

It might be a while before I sell my Sorrels. I bought them 20years ago second hand for $50 and they are still going strong. :)

thanks for the Alpkit suggestion. Unfortunately mail order only and only up to size 14 :shock:
 
I have a Marmot 3/4 length black coat. It's down filled and exactly what I needed for a December in northern China. Some days I had thermal and jumpers on, but I've also worn it with short sleeves underneath. It also doubled as a great blanket when traveling or at night. It also looked "dressier" than some other options I looked at.
 
I have taken the plunge on a Canada Goose Kensington.

There is a store in Brighton that stocks them, and fortunately had one in my size. I shall be very snug.

Thank you for all the suggestions along the way.
 
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