Validation of Itinerary... One World Zone 10

[mattmison]

Hi All,

Ive been saving my FF points for years, I now have enough for 2 one world Zone 10 Economy tickets RTW..

I have been playing around with the one world explorer website, and some milage validators to find the perfect Itinerary for the trip..

I have come up with the following - which seems to work:

SYD-HNL-DFW-MEX-MIA-LIM-SCL-EZE-MAD-LHR-CAI-AMM-HKG-SYD

at 34824 Miles..

I wanted to work Moscow in there somewhere, but decided that maybe I would do that on a Surface Trip, as well as most of europe.. going to try to take this trip over 2 - 2/1/2 months.

Id love to hear anyones concerns, suggestions and or comments .. and know if anyone can see any issues with this one!!

thanks!!

 

[JohnK]

Welocme to AFF!

You have obviously put in a fair bit of work into the routing. Have you trying putting the routing into the QF award booking engine or are you going directly to the service centre for assistance?

I am assuming you will have stopovers in HNL, MEX, LIM/SCL/EZE, LHR, CAI, AMM/HKG. If my assumption is correct you have too many stopovers and even if you did not stopover in AMM/HKG you cannot have more than 1 stopover in South America with your current routing.

A Oneworld award has to be less than 35,000 miles and no more than 5 stopovers. From memory any surface sectors are also counted as stopovers although you do not have any surface sectors.

Another consideration is that you have chosen routes operated solely by a single Oneworld carrier and availability for 2 people could be an issue.

Good luck.

 

[flychrisfly]

My only recommendation would be to see if you can work the itinerary so that you only enter the US once. US immigration can be horrific and I think MIA airport was recently voted waaaay down the list for this.

If you do enter the US in MIA my advice is to join the queues near the queues where the US citizens are processed as they open up the queues to non-US citizens after all the US citizens are processed, or at least they did when I transited in 2006. Might save you a couple of hours of queuing time.

 

[mattmison]

Welocme to AFF!

You have obviously put in a fair bit of work into the routing. Have you trying putting the routing into the QF award booking engine or are you going directly to the service centre for assistance?

I am assuming you will have stopovers in HNL, MEX, LIM/SCL/EZE, LHR, CAI, AMM/HKG. If my assumption is correct you have too many stopovers and even if you did not stopover in AMM/HKG you cannot have more than 1 stopover in South America with your current routing.

A Oneworld award has to be less than 35,000 miles and no more than 5 stopovers. From memory any surface sectors are also counted as stopovers although you do not have any surface sectors.

Another consideration is that you have chosen routes operated solely by a single Oneworld carrier and availability for 2 people could be an issue.

Good luck.

Thanks, I didn't realise you were only allowed 5 stopovers?? I don't know how i missed this, I put the routing through the one world website, availability was across various carriers though, not one, only a handful of flights were with Qantas..

I dont really understand why I can only have 1 stopover in south America, I've read over the one world explorer ticket rules again but cant work it out? can you help me out?

Thanks!!

 

[moa999]

Note the Qantas oneworld Award is a totally different product to the oneworld RTW ticket and the rules are totally different.

See sn 14.5
http://www.qantas.com.au/fflyer/dyn/program/terms

Also availability from the one world website will be for a Paid economy seat, again this is totally different to award availability.

 

[DC3]

Thanks, I didn't realise you were only allowed 5 stopovers?? I don't know how i missed this, I put the routing through the one world website, availability was across various carriers though, not one, only a handful of flights were with Qantas..

Including:

14.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply:
(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary

The limits are 35,000 miles, 16 segments and 5 stopovers, but you can add side trips (later) that are not part of the itinerary (for additional cost/points).

The oneworld RTW award is not specifically a round-the-world fare, so it doesn't have directional restrictions.

 

[JohnK]

Thanks, I didn't realise you were only allowed 5 stopovers?? I don't know how i missed this, I put the routing through the one world website, availability was across various carriers though, not one, only a handful of flights were with Qantas..

As mentioned the QF Oneworld award is nothing like the Oneworld Explorer fare.

Apart from stopovers you appear to have a valid itinerary but you have selected routes that are serviced by a single carrier (eg EZE-MAD) and therefore may have difficulty in availability especially as you are booking award seats for 2 people.

I dont really understand why I can only have 1 stopover in south America, I've read over the one world explorer ticket rules again but cant work it out? can you help me out?

You are not restricted to 1 stopover in South America. You can have 3 or 4 if you like but you will be restricted by your other stopovers.

You may have to go to a place like EZE and purchase separate segments for other parts of South America and then fly out of EZE. Remember surface sectors count as stopovers.

My recommendation would be to play around with the QF award booking engine to get an idea for availability and options for 2 passengers. The more you use it the eaiser it will become.

 

[docjames]

As mentioned the QF Oneworld award is nothing like the Oneworld Explorer fare.

Apart from stopovers you appear to have a valid itinerary but you have selected routes that are serviced by a single carrier (eg EZE-MAD) and therefore may have difficulty in availability especially as you are booking award seats for 2 people.


You are not restricted to 1 stopover in South America. You can have 3 or 4 if you like but you will be restricted by your other stopovers.

You may have to go to a place like EZE and purchase separate segments for other parts of South America and then fly out of EZE. Remember surface sectors count as stopovers.

My recommendation would be to play around with the QF award booking engine to get an idea for availability and options for 2 passengers. The more you use it the eaiser it will become.

SCL-MAD is also available on LA and may be a substitute. A side trip SCL-EZE-SCL could be bought.

Hi All,

SYD-HNL-DFW-MEX-MIA-LIM-SCL-EZE-MAD-LHR-CAI-AMM-HKG-SYD

at 34824 Miles..

I wanted to work Moscow in there somewhere, but decided that maybe I would do that on a Surface Trip, as well as most of europe.. going to try to take this trip over 2 - 2/1/2 months.

Id love to hear anyones concerns, suggestions and or comments .. and know if anyone can see any issues with this one!!

thanks!!

As noted, the cities you particularly want to visit would be useful, as opposed to those just transitting. Unless you really want to visit MIA, use LA to go MEX-SCL in one hit (rather than via LIM), again if having stopover issues you could purchase DFW-MIA and slot MIA in before MEX.

You'll get better advice if you can prioritise which ones are stopovers.

 

[JohnK]

As noted, the cities you particularly want to visit would be useful, as opposed to those just transitting. Unless you really want to visit MIA, use LA to go MEX-SCL in one hit (rather than via LIM), again if having stopover issues you could purchase DFW-MIA and slot MIA in before MEX.

I believe in the above scenario DFW would become a stopover if you purchase a surface sector DFW-MIA.