Tiger Airways breached safety rules

[gilby08]

Tiger Airways breached safety rules by failing to report a wing-flap problem on an Airbus A320s, a problem that re-occurred eight months later, forcing an unscheduled landing with 125 passengers on board.
In the second incident, a wing began flexing in a metre arc at 35,000 feet as crew tried to deal with the problem.
An Australian Transport Safety Bureau investigation found flawed manufacturing and intermittent computer glitches set the conditions for uncontrolled flapping of a wing aileron, or flap

Jet's flapping wing forced down passenger flight

Seems like this may be a reason as to why CASA won't approve any more a/c for Tiger in Australia at the moment, as mentioned on another thread somewhere.

 

[harvyk]

That's a bit of a concern...

Whilst I hope I'm wrong, I just can't shake the feeling that our first major air disaster will involve a TT jet.

It's not because they have had these issues (hey I'm a realist and realise that not every flight will run smoothly), but because (of what I have read in news articles) their reporting seems to be substandard, and their efforts to roll out fixes don't seem to be up there compared to other carriers. IMHO a side effect of the ULCC model where everything has a price attached to it.

 

[MelUser]

I've said it before and I will say it again - you get what you pay for with this airline.

 

[Saab34]

Whilst I hope I'm wrong, I just can't shake the feeling that our first major air disaster will involve a TT jet.

The experience that lies in Tiger Australia will be the savor to any accident. We are talking Sullenberger experience here, some of the most experienced A320 pilots fly for Tiger. You have got Chief Pilot Ken Broomhead in charge, which he would be insulted if he read that.

On the other hand, you have then got Mr Buchanan trying to get all sorts of inexperienced folks up front on supermarket wages, which leads to accidents :shock:

 

[markis10]

The experience that lies in Tiger Australia will be the savor to any accident. We are talking Sullenberger experience here, some of the most experienced A320 pilots fly for Tiger. You have got Chief Pilot Ken Broomhead in charge, which he would be insulted if he read that.

Yep, the experience you get from paying the lowest rates for any equivalent aviation job in Australia, the experience not to spot a problem that has been flying for 8 months:


ATSB report finds Tiger Airways Airbus flew for eight months with a wing fault | Herald Sun

I am sorry but there is no room in Aviation for blind faith and expecting what worked yesterday will work today, nor for covering it up or failing to report it as required, something that another LCC had issues with recently.

 

[Saab34]

Hold on, didn't Jetstar also fail to report that Melbourne landing when it nearly collided with the ground?

Tiger's mentality from operating with skeleton staff has come back to bite it seems.

 

[markis10]

Hold on, didn't Jetstar also fail to report that Melbourne landing when it nearly collided with the ground? Or was it lack of details they provided?

That was the "another LCC" I was referring to.

 

[PineappleSkip]

Amazed this got so little press/airplay. Can't you just imagine the hullabaloo if QF had problems like this.

Cheers skip

 

[harvyk]

The experience that lies in Tiger Australia will be the savor to any accident. We are talking Sullenberger experience here, some of the most experienced A320 pilots fly for Tiger. You have got Chief Pilot Ken Broomhead in charge, which he would be insulted if he read that.

On the other hand, you have then got Mr Buchanan trying to get all sorts of inexperienced folks up front on supermarket wages, which leads to accidents :shock:

That's all well and good, but Sullenberger still crashed a plane, and whilst he is obviously a very skilled pilot (hey I'd be happy to fly with him) to perform the most successful water landing in a non purpose built airliner ever, it was very much a case of good luck as well that no one was killed.

To be honest I want to know that the plane I'm flying in is safe, not just the pilots are very skilled, and bad incident reporting in an industry where good reporting of problems stops planes from falling from the sky just doesn't fill me with confidence.

 

[drron]

I just loved the headline-"Flapping wing" when it was a wing flap problem.

 

[medhead]

I just loved the headline-"Flapping wing" when it was a wing flap problem.

The wing was flapping due to a wing flap problem. Very funny

 

[straitman]

I just loved the headline-"Flapping wing" when it was a wing flap problem.

I also find it intriguing how the wing flaps and aileron have now become interchangeable components!




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[markis10]

I also find it intriguing how the wing flaps and aileron have now become interchangeable components!

They are on a MU2, sort of