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Looks like for the Xmas period that it's $100~$400 cheaper to open jaw (?)But at least SQ is showing pricing from both SYD and WSI in the one search and it looks like it will let you open jaw out of one and back to another - if there’s a compelling price or other reason to do so.
SQ202 I do NOT recommend as a flight to use miles on a Business award redemption.Plenty of Saver awards out of WSI in November early December with some days in the second half of December still available. Pity about the timing.
It's only just the first published flight. Lets wait to see what other airlines do before dismissing this!The timing of flights into WSI only suits Sydneysiders due to very late arrival time. I wonder how long it will last and what the load factor will be considering this factor.
SQ202 I do NOT recommend as a flight to use miles on a Business award redemption.
1. It’s the regional 2018RJ seat, and this one I’ve found is a disaster for overnight flights. The footwell is like a coffin, next to no width to move and pretty much entire length of your legs goes in. Very limited shoulder space in bed mode. Not comfortable to sleep at all. Fine for short daytime naps, but overnight sleep, no. I did it once to South Korea and never again
2. SQ202 departing WSI will almost inevitably be a Sleeper Service flight if we go off its counterpart flights from other cities like SQ218 or SQ246. This means you’ll only get one meal, and it’s just a single tray of one main course and fruits. No garlic bread, or satay, or desserts, which are a feature of the daytime flights, which on top of that also get a second hot meal service, refreshment. Each to their own, but for me I value the full experience of SQ Biz, noting the italicised mention above, all of which are all cut from the Sleeper flights.
Not to mention the business people who finish work and want to go home asap but the earlier SYD service is terribly well timed for a work trip. I find these people (and sometimes myself included) also do not give one iota about the food service onboard if we're buying the seat to sleep. I've seen many skip breakfast as well.I would expect the people in Y would not care one iota about the folks up front trials and tribulations if they live in the catchment and save $100-400 per flight
That’s the point I meant to make - much better value to save a good amount of cash/miles and go in Y for a flight like this.I would expect the people in Y would not care one iota about the folks up front trials and tribulations if they live in the catchment and save $100-400 per flight
To Sydney there’s already SQ241 and SQ211 as the daytime flights, however 241 with a 7am departure is not appealing for those coming directly from Singapore as you’d need to get up at an ungodly hour. 241 is great if you’re transiting from a Europe flight that arrives early. SQ211 is the sweet spot with the 10:30am departure and a 4-class B77W.SIN - WSI is one of the few rare daytime flights so there might be some novelty in that.
One of the few Red-eye's that goes West? Actually, maybe I just don't know schedules enough to make that commentThe WSI - SIN will be reasonably popular with business sending people to work. As it allows them to bring them back and back to work the next day in SIN.
Most the ME airlines have a late night flight ex SYD. They’re usually very good because you get a decent sleep and arrive in Europe mid arvo.One of the few Red-eye's that goes West? Actually, maybe I just don't know schedules enough to make that comment![]()
One of the few Red-eye's that goes West? Actually, maybe I just don't know schedules enough to make that comment![]()
Rather than Europe I'm legitimately thinking SIN business.Most the ME airlines have a late night flight ex SYD. They’re usually very good because you get a decent sleep and arrive in Europe mid arvo.
Putting aside the current bunfight.
CX also has a late departure that pushes the curfew. The crew are always rushing to get going so they get home!
But some departures after 11pm thru the wee hours could actually be better for some airlines and PAX.
Yes, hence the last comment about leaving even later. The current 5am arrival is fine for peeps heading home and those with onward connections but probably not so good for those heading up for work?Rather than Europe I'm legitimately thinking SIN business.
Lots of business travel between SIN and SYD.
MH via KUL?Coming back, if I could I’d avoid a red-eye. That’s very difficult (impossible) flying OW ex SIN.
Yes, there’s one “sparrow’s” option, but I was thinking of non-stop options (ie QF and BA).MH via KUL?
Rather than Europe I'm legitimately thinking SIN business.
Lots of business travel between SIN and SYD.
I’m not totally convinced that the overnight services are that important for business travel to SIN when the 7pm is adequate and we are in an era with wifi on planes such that staff can still be productive on aircraft during normal business hours.
However huge potential for the WSI-SIN service to support connecting traffic to India, China, Japan, London, Frankfurt and most of SQ’s SE Asia network.
