Sale Fares Dearer than Flex Fares

[Ansett]

And here we go again another error on the website

[TH="class: location"]From[/TH]
[TH="class: location"]To[/TH]
[TH="class: flight"]Flight[/TH]
[TH="class: fare-family FF_AUSASALE"] Sale [/TH]
[TH="class: fare-family FF_AUSARED"] Saver [/TH]
[TH="class: fare-family FF_AUSASUPSAV"] Semi Flex [/TH]
[TH="class: fare-family FF_AUSAFLEX last-col"] Flex [/TH]

[TD="class: location"] 12:19 Rio De Janeiro (Santos Dumont) Duration: 0h 51m [/TD]
[TD="class: location"]13:10 Sao Paulo (Guarulhos International) Stops: 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: flight-number"] G31707 [/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSASALE"]$4318 485,500
[/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSARED"]$1426 156,800
[/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSASUPSAV"]$1776 196,000
[/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSAFLEX last-col"]$2226 247,000
[/TD]

[TD="class: location"] 17:15 Sao Paulo (Guarulhos International) Duration: 4h 25m [/TD]
[TD="class: location"]21:40 Santiago Stops: 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: flight-number last-col"] LA761 [/TD]

[TD="class: location"] 23:55 Santiago Duration: 13h 10m [/TD]
[TD="class: location"]04:05 Tue Auckland Stops: 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: flight-number last-col"] QF322 [/TD]

[TD="class: location"] 06:40 Tue Auckland Duration: 4h 15m [/TD]
[TD="class: location"]08:55 Tue Melbourne Stops: 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: flight-number last-col"] QF152 [/TD]

[TD="class: single-cell last-col, colspan: 3"] Total duration: 31h 36m

• 
  = Flight Operated by Latam Airlines Group S.A.
• 
  = Flight Operated by Vrg Linhas Aereas S A

[/TD]

[TD="class: location"] 12:19 Rio De Janeiro (Santos Dumont) Duration: 0h 51m [/TD]
[TD="class: location"]13:10 Sao Paulo (Guarulhos International) Stops: 0 [/TD]
[TD="class: flight-number"] G31707 [/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSASALE"]$4318 485,500
[/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSARED"]$1426 156,800
[/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSASUPSAV"]$1776 196,000
[/TD]
[TD="class: fare FF_AUSAFLEX last-col"]$2226
[/TD]

 

[Mr_Orange]

Not necessarily an error. I've seen plenty of sale fares that are more pricey than the Red e-Deals, Savers and Flex fares.

 

[RooFlyer]

Not necessarily an error. I've seen plenty of sale fares that are more pricey than the Red e-Deals, Savers and Flex fares.

So its a scam, to induce people to book more expensive fares?

I don't think Harvey Norman is allowed to put a 'SALE!' price tag of $4,000 on a sofa that usually costs $1,000 .

 

[medhead]

so buy the flex.

So its a scam, to induce people to book more expensive fares?

I don't think Harvey Norman is allowed to put a 'SALE!' price tag of $4,000 on a sofa that usually costs $1,000 .

A flexi fare is a different product. There is nothing to prevent HN put a sofa on sale for $4000 and also selling a sofa with built in recliners, drink holders and a drinks fridge for $1000. There is no requirement for the party selling to obtain a fair value for the product.

 

[RooFlyer]

so buy the flex.




A flexi fare is a different product. There is nothing to prevent HN put a sofa on sale for $4000 and also selling a sofa with built in recliners, drink holders and a drinks fridge for $1000. There is no requirement for the party selling to obtain a fair value for the product.

I take your point, and was going to mention varying T&Cs in my post but opted for brevity :shock: .

But if Flex has the most generous T&Cs for the customer, then its the top-of-the-line fare in the cabin class. Any 'sale' under the 'reasonable person' test should be less costly than the most expensive regular option; unless that's true, its not a 'sale' but a 'mark-up'. This case might be more expensive than the cheapo-give-it-away fare (or sofa), but it should be less than what you would ordinarily pay for even one of the choices, shouldn't it?

(And I agree with you wrt 'fair value' - but in this case we are talking about holding out re a type of price - that's a consumer right issue, not a comment on their nous.)

Or am I reading Ansett's table incorrectly?

 

[medhead]

I take your point, and was going to mention varying T&Cs in my post but opted for brevity :shock: .

But if Flex has the most generous T&Cs for the customer, then its the top-of-the-line fare in the cabin class. Any 'sale' under the 'reasonable person' test should be less costly than the most expensive regular option; unless that's true, its not a 'sale' but a 'mark-up'. This case might be more expensive than the cheapo-give-it-away fare (or sofa), but it should be less than what you would ordinarily pay for even one of the choices, shouldn't it?

(And I agree with you wrt 'fair value' - but in this case we are talking about holding out re a type of price - that's a consumer right issue, not a comment on their nous.)

Or am I reading Ansett's table incorrectly?

Fair points. I think we're reading it the same. The sofa analogy doesn't exactly fit, because a sofa is purchased as a particular sofa - i.e. the Jabiru 3 seater. So yes if a jabiru 3 seater was on sale for 3 times the non sale price of a jabiru 3 seater, that is an issue. I'm just not sure that flexi, saver and red-e-deal are the exact same product, even considering your points (which are fair and valid).

But having read your post, I'm not sure anymore......