QF5 Turned back to SYD after 30mins in flight

[maggies1]

Qantas flight today

Just heard a Qantas flight to Singapore has been turned around to Sydney due to engine fault.

 

[maggies1]

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Update: QF5 has landed safely in Sydney.

 

[zig]

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Good to hear that all have landed safely. TV news is a bit behind things, they have just announced a 'mid air drama' and said the plane is dumping fuel over Syd.

 

[yohy?!]

From Fairfax:

Qantas plane forced to turn around after technical issue

ERIK JENSEN

March 30, 2010 - 6:36PM
A Qantas plane bound for Singapore was turned back just after leaving Sydney airport this evening, with a spokesman describing the incident as an "in-flight technical issue".
The QF5 left Sydney at 5.10pm. It landed safely about 6.15pm.
A spokesman for the airline did not know the nature of the malfunction but said it would be investigated.
"It will taxi to the terminal," he said. "We have engineers on standby to assess what the issue was. They will make a decision."
The spokesman said a standby plane was on hand if the plane was deemed unsafe to recommence its flight.
"We will do everything we can to get the flight away tonight," he said.

 

[JohnK]

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Qantas place forced to return to Sydney Airport

A Qantas passenger jet has landed safely at Sydney Airport after reporting engine problems about half an hour into a flight to Singapore.

The Boeing 747 encountered mechanical problems affecting one of the plane's engines.

A pilot discovered the issue soon after the near-full QF5 jumbo left Sydney at 5.10pm (AEDT).

The aircraft, which was over the sea at the time, was turned back, dumping fuel on the way to meet landing requirements.

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

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Qantas place forced to return to Sydney Airport

They're trying again at 2100. Hopefully they have better luck this time. Those 744's are getting a bit long in the tooth...

 

[yohy?!]

Channel Nine Sydney now reporting witnesses saw 'flames coming from engines' upon touchdown in SYD

 

[markis10]

Channel 9 is also reporting AFF has two threads on the subject

http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/com...-flyer-program/qantas-flight-today-22423.html

 

[JohnK]

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Still it will be sad to see the 747's go.

 

[Skoogle]

SACL website says it is 'Boarding' and due out at 21:30. I guess it was an easy fix.

 

[Batesy]

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They're trying again at 2100. Hopefully they have better luck this time. Those 744's are getting a bit long in the tooth...

Define long in the tooth for a jet designed for 15-20 years service??? Qantas youngest in the fleet was delivered in 2003. Oldest in 1989 according to Qflyer

 

[bossreggie]

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Still it will be sad to see the 747's go.

Yes it will.... Unless QF decides to get some 747-800's

Does anyone know if this is a possibility?

 

[ComeFlyWithMe]

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Yes it will.... Unless QF decides to get some 747-800's

Does anyone know if this is a possibility?

Not according to QF website for international fleet: (delivered/on order)
A380 : 6 / 20 (ordered will be minus F and cramming in 50+ more whY)
B787 Dreamliner : 0 / 115 (!!! thought that was a typo, probably for JQ also)
B737-800 : 3 / 31 (new style w/touch AVOD, etc)
A330-200 : 1 / 1 (dom SYD-PER, MEL-PER)
Q400 : 21 / 5 (replacing Dash-8s)

No sign of any 747s... looks like we will be flying both dom and int'l on 787s in a few years.

 

[tuapekastar]

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Yes it will.... Unless QF decides to get some 747-800's

Does anyone know if this is a possibility?

I see these referred to as 747-8s at Boeing's website, not 747-800s (or 748s). I don't know why this is but I guess they (Boeing) just decided to name them thus.

 

[JohnK]

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Yes it will.... Unless QF decides to get some 747-800's

Does anyone know if this is a possibility?

You never what is around the corner. May not have any on order but that could change next time the wind changes direction.

B737-800 : 3 / 31 (new style w/touch AVOD, etc)

Why oh why are they ordering more 737's? I have had enough of them and trying very hard to avoid them on the SYD-BNE commute.

 

[anat0l]

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Why oh why are they ordering more 737's? I have had enough of them and trying very hard to avoid them on the SYD-BNE commute.

What do you propose they order instead for short haul? 767s? Not happening - they are on the way out.

Yes, they were/are nice, served a purpose, but times are changing.

Not sure if the 787s which are set to replace them will have a short haul stint.

 

[JohnK]

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What do you propose they order instead for short haul? 767s? Not happening - they are on the way out.

Another twin aisle aircraft? How about A330's? Aren't they on domestic duty on the SYD-MEL route and from SYD/MEL-PER? Is it that noticeable that I get paranoid about single aisle aircraft? :mrgreen:

Yes, they were/are nice, served a purpose, but times are changing.

The 767 was/still is a good aircraft for short haul flights. Lucky QF has renewed the lease on the BA birds so the 767s will be around for a few years to come.

Not sure if the 787s which are set to replace them will have a short haul stint.

Works for me.

 

[markis10]

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Not according to QF website for international fleet: (delivered/on order)
A380 : 6 / 20 (ordered will be minus F and cramming in 50+ more whY)
B787 Dreamliner : 0 / 115 (!!! thought that was a typo, probably for JQ also)
B737-800 : 3 / 31 (new style w/touch AVOD, etc)
A330-200 : 1 / 1 (dom SYD-PER, MEL-PER)
Q400 : 21 / 5 (replacing Dash-8s)

No sign of any 747s... looks like we will be flying both dom and int'l on 787s in a few years.

The Qantas website is not up to date and includes group aircraft purchases such as JQ and the Jetconnect 737-800's, in terms of the 787 they only have 50 firm orders after cancelling 15 of the 65 firm orders in Jun 09:

The cancellation reduces Qantas's firm orders for the 787 from 65 to 50, which comprises 35 787-9s and 15 787-8s. The first 15 787-9s due for Jetstar's international operations will now be delivered from mid-2013 three years later than planned.

A further 15 787-8s will then follow over the 12 months from the fourth quarter of 2014 for Qantas's domestic operations during which time it will retire its remaining 767-200 fleet.

The last delivery of 20 787-9s for both Qantas and Jetstar will take place from late 2015 to 2017, while the airline will retain the ability to purchase an additional 50 aircraft.


Qantas Airways cancels, defers Boeing 787 Dreamliner orders

 

[Nigelinoz]

I believe the aircraft involved in this "incident" was VH-OJI, which was delivered to Qantas in December 1990 so it's not quite 20 years old,average age of QF 74's is 15.4 years,at least that is according to Fleet age Qantas - Airfleets
Aviation Herald is reporting the incident as follows:

A Qantas Boeing 747-400, registration VH-OJI performing flight QF-5 from Sydney,NS (Australia) to Singapore (Singapore) with 414 people on board, encountered a problem with engine #3 (RB211, inner right hand) during initial climb departing from Sydney's runway 16R prompting the crew to call "Mayday" and levelled off at 3000 feet, the crew subsequently shut the engine down, downgraded to "PAN", climbed to 10000 feet, dumped fuel over the Tasman Sea and returned to Sydney's runway 16R for a safe landing about 65 minutes after departure. The airplane taxied to the apron on its own power after emergency services checked the airplane

http://www.avherald.com/h?article=42965386&opt=0

All in all sounds like the situation was handled well by the crew,the aircraft landed safely and nobody was hurt so good news all round-apart from the fact that apparently an engine change will be required-I bet Qantas don't think that's good news lol!

 

[markis10]

I believe the aircraft involved in this "incident" was VH-OJI, which was delivered to Qantas in December 1990 so it's not quite 20 years old,average age of QF 74's is 15.4 years,at least that is according to Fleet age Qantas - Airfleets
Aviation Herald is reporting the incident as follows:


Incident: Qantas B744 near Sydney on Mar 30th 2010, engine surge

And I can guarantee the engines it has are not always the ones it shipped with, its a small point but most people dont realize the engines are a separate asset to the plane, which is why they have the owners listed on them in a lot of cases. The faulty engine could be a year old or twenty years old.