QF selling more "extra legroom" Y seats - 80A/K,71D, Int. bullhead & Dom. Exit

[MEL_Traveller]

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Just found out about this, wild, my seats (bronze 0 status, never flown outside the US) are still good and at 25AUD each.
Flights booked in July, for end of April to late May.

They can't take the seats off you as you have already paid for them. This would carry over if there were any involuntary changes to your flights (for example caused by schedule or aircraft change).

however, if you change your flight voluntarily at any stage you would be up for the new fee.

 

[Awesom Andy]

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Just realised that they are also selling row 23 on the international A333 as an extra leg room seat. Like, seriously?! I can certainly see someone demanding on a refund...

 

[timster]

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Just realised that they are also selling row 23 on the international A333 as an extra leg room seat. Like, seriously?! I can certainly see someone demanding on a refund...

Total joke. The only people for whom most Qantas bulkhead seats provide sufficient leg room are those who don't need extra leg room. The inability to fully straighten longer legs for hours is surprisingly painful. In a regular Y (aisle) seat there is always a way to do that when necessary, either under the seat in front or into the aisle. In a bulkhead there can literally be nowhere to go.

I would always choose a normal Y aisle seat over a Qantas bulkhead (with only a few exceptions in particular locations). Some other airlines have better bulkhead leg room but bulkheads are such a lottery that unless you've seen the exact seat they are best avoided by people who really need leg room.

Ironically normal Y seat leg room and bulkhead leg room is better on some Asian airlines than on QF.

 

[JohnK]

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Ironically normal Y seat leg room and bulkhead leg room is better on some Asian airlines than on QF.

I know it is a LCC carrier but don't try Thai Air Asia for medium haul flights. You can't stick your leg in the aisle along the seat in front. Your leg ends up in the middle of the aisle due to the way the seat is designed. Very uncomfortable and I am only 5'9".

 

[GalaxyNexus]

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I noticed this about a week ago. Row 43 in a 744 is now also an "extra legroom" seat. My seat selection (43A) done a couple of weeks prior (was free back then) still sticks though.

Looking upthread it's quite bizarre actually, since I recall for an A333 row 23 is actually not great, I would've chosen row 24 for better legroom and movable armrest...

 

[Awesom Andy]

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Looking upthread it's quite bizarre actually, since I recall for an A333 row 23 is actually not great, I would've chosen row 24 for better legroom and movable armrest...

If extra leg room is chargable, we really should be compensated instead if we choose row 23 on that aircraft. I'm 5'6" and still find it a little restrictive.

 

[madrooster]

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Just realised that they are also selling row 23 on the international A333 as an extra leg room seat. Like, seriously?! I can certainly see someone demanding on a refund...

It's likely QF has not differentiated between row 23 on a QF domestic A332 vs. the QF intl A333...

 

[JohnK]

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I noticed this about a week ago. Row 43 in a 744 is now also an "extra legroom" seat. My seat selection (43A) done a couple of weeks prior (was free back then) still sticks though.

Well that just about confirms it.

Qantas is more than likely going to lose my business for economy travel to from SE Asia. If I am going to be seated somewhere behind bulkhead seat then I may as well for best fare of the day. I don't want to pay $180 extra for the privilege of sitting in bulkhead seat.

 

[Mr_Orange]

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I noticed this about a week ago. Row 43 in a 744 is now also an "extra legroom" seat. My seat selection (43A) done a couple of weeks prior (was free back then) still sticks though.

Even this row is not actually extra leg room if you are 6' or taller. Whilst there is a cut out at foot level, it is a visual trick since the main part of the bulkhead is closer to start off with.

Looking upthread it's quite bizarre actually, since I recall for an A333 row 23 is actually not great, I would've chosen row 24 for better legroom and movable armrest...

Agreed. In fact, QF should paying us $180 to sit in row 23 on the 333.

 

[blackcat20]

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Air NZ only charges $90 for their exit rows on long haul...we're being ripped off.

 

[Kendall Roy]

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Row 43 in a 744 is now also an "extra legroom" seat.

Dear Red Roo,

As a WP for the past 4 years (plus SG leading up), I say goodbye!

You expect these type of shenanigans from JQ which is in-line with a LCC model, but what incentive does a WP now have to book QF when some of the seats previously blocked off to WP+ until T-80 are now attracting a premium

I can see the rationale for the likes of 80A/80K/71D on the A388, however when you start classifying 330 (Incl. DOM!)/747/A380 bulkheads as "Extra legroom" and charge an excessive premium, you've well and truly lost me!

It's been a good run, but this type of penny pinching has gone too far! :evil:

Suggest you look at the likes of AA/BA who get the balance right between raising revenue and recognising loyalty of high-tier FFs

AG

 

[defurax]

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I can only imagine how angry I would be if I were to pay $180 to book row 23 on an A333! Fortunately I know better, but I wonder how many infrequent flyers will make that costly mistake. Row 23 could maybe be labelled "recliner free", but not "extra legroom", it's so misleading!:evil:

 

[Aussie_flyer]

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Have to agree this is PATHETIC Qantas.

Will there be any incentive to remain platinum left soon?

 

[JohnK]

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It's just one change after another.

Let's just say that A330 row 23 is not the same as row 45 exit row (or is that row 46) and it's ludicrous to charge the same premium. Same goes for 747 row 43 bulkhead and exit rows. Not the same.

Being able to select these seats as a Platinum was a nice little reward for loyalty. I am not paying $90 extra for the privilege of sitting in a bulkhead seat.

Waiting for domestic row 4 to require a premium as well.

I am still going retain Platinum but I am going look at other carriers for long haul economy travel. This was the straw that broke this camels back.

 

[medhead]

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Qantas is a business they have to make money. Or whatever it was you lot told me when ata was removed.

Having just made my firstly international trip booking that is entirely QF free I must commend qantas management for not giving a free kick to their competition. Seems to be working out well for them, all those previously loyal customers rushing to give qantas money.

 

[Bundy Bear]

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Another case of Qantas letting the school kids from Accounting 101 look after the seat selection process, but don't worry I had no plans to fly Qantas out of Perth on an international flight that option was taken away from me at the beginning of the year, Perth was just not economically viable.

 

[Awesom Andy]

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From what I know of, AA, BA, and CX have these seats available free of charge for pax with high status, although I think MH and SQ have these seats charged regardless of pax status. It's somewhat inline with competitors, although seats like row 23 on international A333s really should not be charged.

 

[JohnK]

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Qantas is a business they have to make money. Or whatever it was you lot told me when ata was removed.

They are a premium airline charging a premium for airfares and have introduced component pricing similar to LCCs.

They weren't losing money because a Platinum was able to pre-select exit row or bulkhead for their flight.

Qantas making this decision has helped me make a decision I did not need to make.

 

[Kendall Roy]

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Another angle is to compare the benefits of NB vs WP once on-board the aircraft.

* $25 Seat Selection Fee saving per flight - and that's if you're happy with a "standard" seat.

I cannot think of anything else.....

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It would be nice to hear from QF on this matter. For starters, charging for A333 bulkheads is misleading advertising at best.... Then you can start looking at the Row 43/51 etc. joke!

 

[fifo]

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They are a premium airline charging a premium for airfares and have introduced component pricing similar to LCCs.

They weren't losing money because a Platinum was able to pre-select exit row or bulkhead for their flight.

Qantas making this decision has helped me make a decision I did not need to make.

Yep, now its just about cheapest fare incl exit row seat/meal/however much luggage I need on that trip. Loyalty is gone. This will all be once my points with both qantas and virgin are gone, some 650k to burn.