QF early-2017 award availability - restricted to elite status holders?

[Stoopidsteve]

I am the 'Gold" poster from the other post. I can see what Platinum is seeing.

Datapoint: Gold here,:

 

[BD1959]

Datapoint: Gold here,:
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Certainly not what I'm seeing this morning (which is pretty much the same as yesterday) - in fact this looks more like F than J award availability, but with different days of very restricted availability to those I'm getting. I noted that your have brought up the SIN-BNE as a return portion of a booking and thought maybe a bug here was restricting J availability but .. no everything is still good on my search.

Not sure what you've done here Stoopidsteve.

Regards,

BD

 

[maroonone]

I don't see what the debate is about - QFF clearly states

Silver

Preferential access to selected Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats
Qantas provides preferential access, when available, to our popular Classic Flight Reward seats for Silver, Gold and Platinum Frequent Flyers.

Gold

Preferential access to selected Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats
On selected flights, preferential access to Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats for Gold members may be above the access available to Silver and Bronze members[SUP]9[/SUP].

Unfortunately for us lowly WP it states

Preferential access to selected Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats
On selected flights, preferential access to Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats for Gold members may be above the access available to Silver and Bronze members[SUP]9[/SUP].

which is the Gold version - maybe next school holidays the work experience kids can fix it or maybe it is confirmation that WP is the new SG.

Fortunately for the esteemed and exalted P1

Exclusive access to extra Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats
Preferential access to Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats when you book through qantas.com. Platinum One members also have access to extra Qantas Classic Flight Reward seats[SUP]26[/SUP] where available, on selected Qantas domestic and international flights with a QF flight number on their ticket.
This benefit is available for Platinum One members and eligible family members in the same booking. For assistance, please call our Premium Reservations team on the number displayed on the back of your card.

 

[Coley]

The debate? QF has removed every single business class award flight on QF metal for every single international route for all of 2017, basically overnight without any statement or release. The flights were all available last week. (based on my analysis of 8 different routes)

How is this not a concern? Or you don't care being WP?

As someone who has been a high tier FF in the past but has now dropped to lowly bronze due to no longer flying for work, I am deeply concerned about my ability to make meaningful award bookings with my hundreds of thousands of left over QFF points if I can't even see a single J award flight in 2017.

 

[BD1959]

I don't see what the debate is about

Hi maroonone,

The debate is around the word "may" and the fact that, to date, it appears (anecdotally for me at least) that QFF "haven't"!

Regards,

BD

 

[drron]

As well if there was a QF classic premium award available at 330 days it would appear and be bookable on aa.com.on the 3 routes I have checked where there would be the occasional J Aaward available now there are none.
You may not think this is important but if OW partners decide that QF is not playing ball you may find even WP1s may not be able to access awards on partner airlines.

 

[Pug1]

I managed to get two J award tickets on QF26, Haneda-Sydney for 19 Feb 17 and booked them about a week ago. I'm Gold and Mrs Pug is Silver. Having trouble getting anything in PE or J for the Sydney-Tokyo leg on 3rd or 4th Feb 17. (We received tour dates for our holiday a bit late for the earlier flight booking). For the Syd-Tokyo leg I can get one ticket in J via Brisbane or a mixture of PE and J on CX via HK, and even a mix of Y J and F if I wanted to go via Dubai or Doha! JAL will release flights for 4th Feb 2017 in a day or so and I have fingers crossed for 2 J award tickets on their direct flight to Narita. Any tips appreciated from the AFF experts.

 

[maroonone]

The debate? QF has removed every single business class award flight on QF metal for every single international route for all of 2017, basically overnight without any statement or release. The flights were all available last week. (based on my analysis of 8 different routes)

How is this not a concern? Or you don't care being WP?

As someone who has been a high tier FF in the past but has now dropped to lowly bronze due to no longer flying for work, I am deeply concerned about my ability to make meaningful award bookings with my hundreds of thousands of left over QFF points if I can't even see a single J award flight in 2017.

Myview tonight shows
Singapore to Brisbane Date

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Jan/Feb 17

Mon	Tue	Wed	Thu	Fri	Sat	Sun
	10 Tuesday 10 January 2017 No seat available	11 Wednesday 11 January 2017 No seat available	12 Thursday 12 January 2017 Seat Available Business	13 Friday 13 January 2017 No seat available	14 Saturday 14 January 2017 No seat available	15 Sunday 15 January 2017 No seat available
16 Monday 16 January 2017 No seat available	17 Tuesday 17 January 2017 No seat available	18 Wednesday 18 January 2017 No seat available	19 Thursday 19 January 2017 No seat available	20 Friday 20 January 2017 No seat available	21 Saturday 21 January 2017 No seat available	22 Sunday 22 January 2017 No seat available
23 Monday 23 January 2017 Seat Available Business	24 Tuesday 24 January 2017 No seat available	25 Wednesday 25 January 2017 No seat available	26 Thursday 26 January 2017 Seat Available Business	27 Friday 27 January 2017 No seat available	28 Saturday 28 January 2017 No seat available	29 Sunday 29 January 2017 No seat available
30 Monday 30 January 2017 Seat Available Business	31 Tuesday 31 January 2017 Seat Available Business	01 Wednesday 01 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business	02 Thursday 02 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business	03 Friday 03 February 2017 Seat Available Economy	04 Saturday 04 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business	05 Sunday 05 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business
06 Monday 06 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business	07 Tuesday 07 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business	08 Wednesday 08 February 2017 Seat Available Economy Business	09 Thursday 09 February 2017 Seat Available Economy
Next 14 days

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Flights: departing Wed 04 Jan 17 returning . Continue

I am actually surprised at the availability noting it is Australian school holidays, the flights opened for award booking more than 30+ days ago and on many dates the seats are J on the direct EK flight.

 

[cjd600]

Any data points on SYD-LAX/SFO from an SG or + perspective, for Feb?

As a points-heavy,status-light NB, this tangent from usual release behaviour for the past 5+ years is of interest to me....

 

[BD1959]

Any data points on SYD-LAX/SFO from an SG or + perspective, for Feb?

Here's SYD-LAX. Picking a couple of random dates had consistently: Y and F on QF11; Y+ and J via BNE (SYD-BNE in Y for Y+).



And SYD-SFO:



Regards,

BD

 

[cjd600]

Thanks BD, appreciated
I'm getting Y's across the board on QF, plenty of J and J/F on CX and EK, and J on FJ (fwiw).

Am sure this is just temporary (hmmm), or our family J Disney trips might be via HKG going forward, fora handful more points than QF direct

 

[drron]

But again no J at all out of BNE to LAX on aa.com despite some classic availability on QF.This is not what happened in the past.Though plenty of Y.This is up to 7/2 though.

 

[cjd600]

But again no J at all out of BNE to LAX on aa.com despite some classic availability on QF.This is not what happened in the past.Though plenty of Y.This is up to 7/2 though.

But zero classic J on QF for NB for the first time (outside of peak holidays) in my 5 odd years of pretty much daily checking the syd/mel/bne - USA releases (T-353)

 

[drron]

But zero classic J on QF for NB for the first time (outside of peak holidays) in my 5 odd years of pretty much daily checking the syd/mel/bne - USA releases (T-353)

Interesting as I look with mrsdrron's WP account.

 

[Quickstatus]

Feb 2017 for 2 pax SYD-LAX via WP account

 

[Quickstatus]

Feb 2017 for 2 pax SYD-LAX via NB account

 

[cjd600]

The key is how many of those J seats for NB vs WP, are on QF

 

[Quickstatus]

The key is how many of those J seats for NB vs WP, are on QF

Pick a day

 

[cjd600]

Pick a day

Any showing J @ 353 or less.
I see QF Y across SYD/MEL/BNE, and J on CX
No QF J (or Anything but Y) on any single day

 

[Scr77]

Any showing J @ 353 or less.
I see QF Y across SYD/MEL/BNE, and J on CX
No QF J (or Anything but Y) on any single day

Ditto here as a NB.