Qantas Sunrise special event tonight

[AisleSeat]

I have no interest in being on a plane for this long. The flight time between DFW-SYD is my limit. Another 4 hours and I'd crack.

 

[ovtraveller]

Whilst people appear to marvel over stop over on the trip to either LHR or NY, to me the stop over is hell. Who wants to find ones way in a chaotic environment like Changi, LA or Dubai, to lounges and gates. Be exposed to double security checks ( have steel replacement hips which look alarmingly like pistols) , have boarding passes twice scrutinised and details noted, potential loss of spouse in the taxfree shops. Give me a comfortable J seat and take me away!

 

[aggie57]

I've done the LA-Singapore SQ flight and its interesting how much longer that feels than even a slow LA-Melbourne one, which can often stretch to over 15 hours. It gets you there but man it's a long time to be essentially sat in one place!

 

[agentgerko]

Will someone please make Alan Joyce about a foot taller, about 25kg heavier and then stick him in one of his Economy seats for 19hrs? Things might change then.

 

[Fergo747]

I have no interest in being on a plane for this long. The flight time between DFW-SYD is my limit. Another 4 hours and I'd crack.

Where do the 4 extra hours come from. The research flight was pegged at 19hr 15min - the longest I've had on the DFW-SYD flight was 18hr 40min earlier this year. That was bearable so based on this would be more than happy to do JFK-SYD (in J).

 

[Pushka]

Listened to Koch on the radio this morning. Everyone in J. Fed special meals. Exercised every 2 hours in Y. Landed with 70 minutes fuel remaining. How on earth does this simulate anything?

 

[AisleSeat]

Where do the 4 extra hours come from. The research flight was pegged at 19hr 15min - the longest I've had on the DFW-SYD flight was 18hr 40min earlier this year. That was bearable so based on this would be more than happy to do JFK-SYD (in J).

Sorry, I meant SYD-DFW. DFW-SYD, while longer, is bearable as its a night flight and sleep is at a natural time, so the hours pass quicker.

 

[justin23]

There will always be enough people to fill Y on these flights. I've got no issue in J or F of course to do these ultra long haul flights, but the layout of the seats in Y will be interesting. I can't see how the current 787 Y layout isn't considered inhumane

I don't mind as long as I can still go through my transit hubs and have a good nights sleep at a hotel.

 

[Pushka]

There will always be enough people to fill Y on these flights. I've got no issue in J or F of course to do these ultra long haul flights, but the layout of the seats in Y will be interesting. I can't see how the current 787 Y layout isn't considered inhumane

I don't mind as long as I can still go through my transit hubs and have a good nights sleep at a hotel.

Koch did say they will remove Y seats so they recline, added areas for exercise and a children’s play area. And that the current fleet isn’t suitable so it’s a few years off waiting for an upgraded version.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

Jet lag was pretty good actually last time I did that itinerary - I to got into destination time ASAP. Don’t need a “research flight” to tell me that.

Exactly.
I always set my watch and phone to destination time on boarding.
Then on arrival, I always force myself to stay up and do things until a normal local bed time.
Never suffered jetlag.

 

[Quickstatus]

You can tell the ones who are going to get bad jetlag are the ones who put on the eyeshades and go to sleep as soon as the seat belt sign goes off on the JFK-LAX-SYD. It's very simple really. Don't sleep on the transcontinental sector of QF11/12.
When I arrived back iinto SYD after a weekend in NYC last year, I was able to go straight back to work.

 

[John in Melbourne]

Personally I wonder if there is a length of flight time at which, even in a premium cabin, most people will say "no, I'd prefer to have a transit stop".
For me it's about 15 hours.

I've flown MEL-PER-LHR and return twice in business and loved that route. Five hours into the 17-hour stretch, I take a sleeping pill (zopiclone, check with your doctor!), sleep for about 7 hours and wake up feeling good.

 

[DC3]

Full daylight in the outdoor (arrival) photo that I saw and only one remembered the sunnies.

 

[Jos888]

Must say I tend to agree with this article. So much hype from Qantas about this flight

Qantas’ 19-Hour Flight Was A Great PR Stunt, But As A Research Project? Please.

Qantas styled its first New York-Sydney non-stop jaunt as a 'research flight' to see how bodies respond to such long flying. That doesn't add up.

www.forbes.com

 

[mandolino]

I've flown MEL-PER-LHR and return twice in business and loved that route. Five hours into the 17-hour stretch, I take a sleeping pill (zopiclone, check with your doctor!), sleep for about 7 hours and wake up feeling good.

I've done it LHR-PER-LHR twice in economy and would do it again.

The disadvantages are noted, such as narrower seats, but it does the job for me.

I always choose aisle anyway, and got up to exercise every hour except a couple of times I was sleeping (undrugged).

I felt far better on arrival than I had expected to and went straight into a 3:30 pm meeting in Perth after cleaning up and changing at hotel. I give some credit to the proclaimed better cabin atmospherics, having done that trip (with stop of course, via ME or SEA) many times in economy and felt worse.

As for NYC-SYD - right now I have no reason to do that trip either way, but would if I found it suited me/us.

Of course the first run is going to be a few select passengers, in Business. Baby steps. Is it even set up for economy yet?

A limited number of passengers means that the risk was minimised - except to AJ, Koch et al of course.

 

[mandolino]

You can tell the ones who are going to get bad jetlag are the ones who put on the eyeshades and go to sleep as soon as the seat belt sign goes off on the JFK-LAX-SYD. It's very simple really. Don't sleep on the transcontinental sector of QF11/12.
When I arrived back iinto SYD after a weekend in NYC last year, I was able to go straight back to work.

As a serial traveller, into my 40th year of Europe-Australia (at least once a year in the last 20 years) with occasional USA-Australia, almost always in economy, I don't find jetlag any easier but I've learnt to work with the rhythms.

If your approach works for you, then great, but a weekend in NYC won't give you jetlag. Normal full adjustment is 7-10 days at either end in my experience. Minor adjustment in 2 -3 days but not really firing on all cylinders until that week and a bit has passed.

I can always go straight into work off a plane. It's later in the day I feel the effects.
And it's never as bad when coming home to your own house and bed.

 

[JessicaTam]

After doing LHR-PER (in Y) I would have to think long and hard about doing JFK-SYD. Oh wait - no thinking required!