Qantas Reveals new A321XLR and 787 Business Class Seats (new 787 frames only)

And a timely video from Josh Cahill which shows Saudia's new 321XLR with the same VantageSolo seat and what looks to be a similar spec to Qantas (note the seat numbers on the aisle and consistent height of the dividers and seat back)

Unfortunately focuses a bit too much on Row 1 but it's certainly not an coffin product, more S shaped.


Not a general fan of the vlogger but he's first to cover this product.
 
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Unfortunately focuses a bit too much on Row 1 but it's certainly not an coffin product, more S shaped.

Thanks for posting that. Each of the J seats appears to have a viewable window, in that configuration (however, see below). Would like to see more of the storage nooks/power etc.

Not a fan of the blogger though - 'all about me'.

The B6 JetBlue Mint 321neo seatmap probably gives the best guide.

Not sure if everyone sees the seat guides (good ... poor) but I subscribe; here are the seats for JetBlue. Yellow means a poor window outlook.

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Yes, Josh Cahill spends far too much time showing himself and talking in a 'me-first' way. Videos that explain the product and service offerings while hardly ever (or never) showing the videographer are preferable.

How his videos have amassed so many followers and viewers would normally be beyond me, except most of us know controversy 'sells'.
 
Yes, Josh Cahill spends far too much time showing himself and talking in a 'me-first' way. Videos that explain the product and service offerings while hardly ever (or never) showing the videographer are preferable.

How his videos have amassed so many followers and viewers would normally be beyond me, except most of us know controversy 'sells'.
Josh who????
 
I guess it also depends on the type of flyer. There's a whole group of people that wouldn't care about looking out the window to begin with.

But yes its all about space saving. I think this is pretty clear looking at JetBlue Mint vs EY's reverse herringbone. Both have 8 rows with a "suite" in row 1. EY takes up 15 windows B6 takes up 14 windows.
 
I guess it also depends on the type of flyer. There's a whole group of people that wouldn't care about looking out the window to begin with.

True that many if not most passengers during flights are using WiFi if the carrier's technology allows that, especially if it's "free", or are glued to seatback entertainment screens where these are fitted/trying to sleep, but during the taxiing, take off and approach to landing/taxiing stages, surely almost all passengers would want to look at the window if their seating permitted that?
 
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Looking at this trip report on the Etihad reverse herringbone layout…


It actually looks fairly challenging for any passenger to look out a window… more so perhaps than the herringbone adopted by QF?

The window is at least 30-40 inches away from you, at an angle, and potentially obscured by panelling.
 
It actually looks fairly challenging for any passenger to look out a window… more so perhaps than the herringbone adopted by QF?

The window is at least 30-40 inches away from you, at an angle, and potentially obscured by panelling.
This is sort of an issue on widebody reverse herringbone as well depending on the airlines layout.

You're at a distance from the window and often can't just look left or right to look out. It's not easy if you want to put your face up to the window and get a full view of the outside (or take pictures). If you're happy just casually staring out from a slight distance then it's great.

Different issue with herringbone where the window is right next to you, but you have to twist your neck substantially.

Example CX A330 business seat for reference.1788245833761.png
 

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