Qantas Project Sunrise goes ahead, 12 new A350-1000s ordered

[TMP]

Delay gives QF another chance to announce it again!

 

[leesionn]

Per aviation.flights, first PS A350 had her first engine run and taxi check today

 

[leesionn]

Spotters based out of TLS have said first A35K has done first rejected take-off, with first flight expected in coming days.

 

[LionKing]

F, J and PE are new design seats not used elsewhere.

I actually wondering if there's any chance that these seats can be fast tracked, for example get them to made in China may have been much faster?

 

[markis10]

I actually wondering if there's any chance that these seats can be fast tracked, for example get them to made in China may have been much faster?

A: It’s a myth they will be made in China faster because is not the manufacturing speed that’s the issue.
B: Recaro have a factory in China, as well as Germany, the USA, Poland and South Africa,

 

[leesionn]

I actually wondering if there's any chance that these seats can be fast tracked, for example get them to made in China may have been much faster?

Where they are manufactured doesn't impact speed as much - issues have been across supply chain such as sourcing materials and certification has been a large bottleneck across the industry.
Seat certification issues has caused delays in:
Lufthansa
China Airlines
ANA
Riyadh Air
Delta
Air India
American Airlines
Singapore Airlines

To name a few. Although Lufthansa's issue is self-inflicted to a small extent due to opting for 3 different manufacturers of Allegris.

 

[LionKing]

Where they are manufactured doesn't impact speed as much - issues have been across supply chain such as sourcing materials and certification has been a large bottleneck across the industry.
Seat certification issues has caused delays in:
Lufthansa
China Airlines
ANA
Riyadh Air
Delta
Air India
American Airlines
Singapore Airlines

To name a few. Although Lufthansa's issue is self-inflicted to a small extent due to opting for 3 different manufacturers of Allegris.

I wonder what is causing delays in certification?

 

[WilsonM]

Will also note that QF is using Safran for its F on the A35Ks, which appears visually similar to the JL A35K F (also made by Safran). I'd assume some customisation but I reckon the bones of the seat is not too different, based on layout and design.

Ofc, they're using an off-the-shelf solution for J and Y at least. I can't find much on the PE seats - QF have said they're fully bespoke, and the renders of the headrest are not quite the same as any I've seen so far.

 

[leesionn]

I wonder what is causing delays in certification?

I think as airlines (especially ones that try to position themselves as more premium) compete with each other, there needs to be higher levels of differentiation and customisation. E.g. Qantas might be using a similar F product to JAL, but the customisation (such as Qantas' armchair and bed as opposed to JAL's seat-bed) means that they require more time for certification/separate certification assessments?

 

[leesionn]

And she's out for her first flight!

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[RB001]

Having fun over the Bay of Biscay...

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01LR/3ffcfece

 

[SYD]

Having fun over the Bay of Biscay...

https://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01LR/3ffcfece

QF have posted some video on Insta

 

[RB001]

Some video on Insta.

It was definitely a popular catch!
A few spotter friends got some footage of the landing - RAT deployed.

 

[mitti]

F, J and PE are new design seats not used elsewhere.

Actually the J seats are the Safran Unity seats which JL has been flying for a couple of years now. If you compare the two side by side it is only really light customisation of materials etc.

 

[markis10]

Actually the J seats are the Safran Unity seats which JL has been flying for a couple of years now. If you compare the two side by side it is only really light customisation of materials etc.

All the seats require certification as their modifications mean they are unique, Qantas insisting they are unique to them!