Qantas Project Sunrise & A350-1000ULR Discussion

[Kangol]

Yep, Qantas have just posted on Facebook around 15mins ago stating that QF1 / QF2 will be SYD-LHR non-stop and QF5 / QF6 will be SYD-LHR via SIN.

I think I'd still prefer QF5 / QF6. Being on a plane for that length of time even if I was in First - no thanks.

You'd be crazy to fly SYD-LHR nonstop and not be in F

 

[anat0l]

You'd be crazy to fly SYD-LHR nonstop and not be in F

Call me crazy then.

That said, the Y price is likely to be still quite expensive, especially if the current pricing climate (viz. oil being what it is with the ME situation) sustains or exacerbates until the flight goes on sale.

 

[Quickstatus]

The LHR arrivals from 01November 2027

Does this suggest QF1 (project sunrise) will hold the 0530arrival slot?

If true QF1 SYD departure will be circa 1900hrs ?

 

[Melburnian1]

0530 hours may be attractive to some in business whose willingness to pay QFi's typically very high fares and patronage Project Sunrise seeks, but imagine being through immigration and what passes for customs by 0615 in the middle of a London winter, and having to drop off bags at your hotel as the room won't be ready for several hours.

Where possible, a mid afternoon to very early evening arrival makes far more sense. Airlines like WY achieve this.

 

[anat0l]

0530 hours may be attractive to some in business whose willingness to pay QFi's typically very high fares and patronage Project Sunrise seeks, but imagine being through immigration and what passes for customs by 0615 in the middle of a London winter, and having to drop off bags at your hotel as the room won't be ready for several hours.

Where possible, a mid afternoon to very early evening arrival makes far more sense. Airlines like WY achieve this.

Suppose that's one plausible scenario.

It'd be nice if QF brought back arrival lounge privileges, as this is a bit of a buffer between arriving quite early, dealing with earlier than check-in time, and still being able to take care of the day.

Another could well be someone who arrives and has to hit the ground running right away.

Another might be having to head to a train station to travel to a town a bit further afield. Or head onto another flight that isn't accessible from longhaul, e.g. Ireland except for Dublin. Arriving in the morning was likely not ideal for anyone, but the flexibility is arguably unparalleled, especially if delays (touch wood) push out the arrival time.

Guess in the end, they were going to displace one flight that sat in that timed slot for Project Sunrise. That's it.

 

[downgraded]

0530 hours may be attractive to some in business whose willingness to pay QFi's typically very high fares and patronage Project Sunrise seeks, but imagine being through immigration and what passes for customs by 0615 in the middle of a London winter, and having to drop off bags at your hotel as the room won't be ready for several hours.

Where possible, a mid afternoon to very early evening arrival makes far more sense. Airlines like WY achieve this.

Don't need to imagine it. This is what QF1 and 9 do already every day. I'm not fond of it but it gets you through immigration and customs before the airport gets busy, and if you're driving it allows you to clear the M25 before commuter traffic builds up. I'm sure at least a large minority of people flying to LHR don't actually go to London.

 

[tassie6]

0530 hours may be attractive to some in business whose willingness to pay QFi's typically very high fares and patronage Project Sunrise seeks, but imagine being through immigration and what passes for customs by 0615 in the middle of a London winter, and having to drop off bags at your hotel as the room won't be ready for several hours.

Where possible, a mid afternoon to very early evening arrival makes far more sense. Airlines like WY achieve this.

A mid afternoon arrival is impossible, would mean leaving SYD at 2-4am depending on the season.... (edit: for a 3pm arrival)

Don't need to imagine it. This is what QF1 and 9 do already every day. I'm not fond of it but it gets you through immigration and customs before the airport gets busy, and if you're driving it allows you to clear the M25 before commuter traffic builds up. I'm sure at least a large minority of people flying to LHR don't actually go to London.

Exactly, this arrival time is nothing new