Qantas' New A321XLR

Ill have to observe in Y when i inevitably take it, but from J it seems to be significantly faster as they used 2 crew in J. In Y it's an extra 3 rows so whilst it would be slower it should really be about an extra few minutes so it may be more of a crew familiarisation issue?
It would not only be 3 extra rows (up to another 18 passengers), but if there are only 4 crew, then 2 working J, that means only 2 working Y, cf. a B737 where it would be one working J and 3 working Y. I haven't been in the latter half of Y cabin for ages, but I thought in a B737 one FA works the rows in approximately the back half of Y while 2 work from the front. The A321 has 10% more Y passengers.

Probably has got to do with crew familiarisation, i.e. time to smooth it out, but I also thought that 4 crew for 200 passengers was pushing it in terms of crew to pax ratio (for safety purposes, for one).
 
Soooo… I took the plunge and did a short hop from MEL to SYD!

Yup, the aircraft is nice and new and seems all very ‘fresh’.

Positives… extraordinarily generous recline! There’s a good 5-6 inch recline which makes the seat very comfortable. Seat fabric… no complains there, it was fine, not overly ‘scratchy’ as mentioned by some pax. Air vents worked well and the overhead bins are indeed large. The extendable headrests work well, staying in position, and go up quite high.

Negatives… I read above that there was no noticeable difference in seat width and I thought ‘how is that possible being an airbus?’. Unfortunately the observation is correct… in fact worse… the seat is/feels narrower than the 737! I was trying to work out how… perhaps the aisles are slightly wider? (And i was not in the last row or anything where seats can sometimes be narrower than the others.)

Despite the slimline design, there is no extra knee room… except when reclined. In fact it might be a bit worse. On the 737 my knees touch the literature pocket when the magazine and headphones are stowed there. On the a321 my knees touched without the magazine there! 🤷‍♂️ And right by your shins is a hard metal bar running along the bottom of the literature pocket.

When reclined however, there was significantly more leg and shin room. MEL-SYD maybe not a winner, but MEL-DPS would be.

Oh, and something that JohnK has mentioned with SQ… the curve of the seats seems to try and give a degree or two of partial recline even when the seat is fully upright. It’s not that comfortable :(

The windows… mentioned above… seem VERY small.

WC ratio wasn’t a problem, only a few pax even used them for the short flight.

There were indeed 5 crew. 2 serving in J and three in Y. Two crew started with a trolley at the front of Y and a third crew started at around row 26, working their way to the rear.

As for the overhead bins… not a single passenger put their bag in sideways and upright! I don’t think many people could actually see the signs inside the lockers. But despite multiple announcements from the crew, no one actually did it. Perhaps if the flight had been full late arriving pax might have rearranged the bags? What most pax did hiwever was put their bag in as normal, and then place their smaller item on top.

One annoying thing… the entertainment system has been ‘fixed’/updated so you can no longer fast forward the advertisements :( My flight on the 737 last week you could still do that, but on the 321 no deal :(

Plane… yes, nice and new. Seat 10/10 when reclined, 6/10 when not. If you are shorted than 6’1, the seat probably gets a 8/10. Service pattern and crew, same same (really good). IFE 8/10 because you can’t fast forward!

The test will really be a full flight to Bali, or longer.
 
Nice review @MEL_Traveller . I don't suppose you got the experience of the person in front of you reclining? Or could see the effect on an adjacent seat?
Thankfully the flight had a few spare seats, one of which was in front of me, and another beside me! The pax in the row in front didn’t recline, so couldn’t get a feel for it.

The passenger across the aisle reclined fully, but had no one behind them either. I guess on a short haul flight people won’t generally recline so much if someone is behind them, and on a long haul, everyone will recline, so distance is maintained.

The person that reclined fully… it was very generous. The head space to the seat behind still looked ok. Because of the seat construction you probably wouldn’t much shin room, but your tablet holder would be a fair bit closer, but still ‘ok’.

This is a long range aircraft… so I’m guessing seat comfort isnt really focussed on short haul. For an overnight back from Bali or Jakarta or wherever else they’re planning, economy would be an ok ride in terms of being able to stretch out - legs fully straight in front of you - when reclined.
 
I think its a bit presumptive to assume everyone will recline on a longer flight. I've been know not to recline on long haul whY flights; I cant sleep sitting up or in the reclined position, so sitting upright is better for my back if watching IFE or reading.
 
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I think its a bit presumptive to assume everyone will recline on a longer flight. I've been know not to recline on long haul whY flights; I cant sleep sitting up or in the reclined position, so sitting upright is better for my back if watching IFE or reading.
I am always frustrated when someone reclines on a daytime flight of any length! Often smashing out work on thr hours from Perth to east coast and find this much easier upright.
 

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