Qantas Fleet

[CaviAck]

They have previously announced that 2 will be going. The timing is a surprise though, would have thought they would have stayed until the refurbs have been completed.

Well if they're going, why refurb? So they can go at anytime as the JQ birds come online I suppose.

 

[ajw373]

Well if they're going, why refurb? So they can go at anytime as the JQ birds come online I suppose.

I didn't mention anything about refurbing the ones they are retiring. Rather I was saying I would have expected them to be needed to cover the ones that are being refurbished. They are after all 2 down with 2 being refurbed at a time.

 

[mannej]

I didn't mention anything about refurbing the ones they are retiring. Rather I was saying I would have expected them to be needed to cover the ones that are being refurbished. They are after all 2 down with 2 being refurbed at a time.

But wouldn't the birds coming back from JQ cover the shortfall? (EBD, EBJ) are two that have come back recently have they not?

 

[CaviAck]

I didn't mention anything about refurbing the ones they are retiring. Rather I was saying I would have expected them to be needed to cover the ones that are being refurbished. They are after all 2 down with 2 being refurbed at a time.

Ah right, I thought the JQ birds coming online would do that.

 

[Mattg]

I must admit that I'm surprised they are retiring an A330 right in the midst of an international aircraft shortage, while they are also pulling out A330s for refurbishments. EBH was an international config too - I would have expected them to get rid of an ex-JQ bird if anything. (I suppose it doesn't matter though if they're eventually refurbishing all of the remaining 330s)

 

[maninblack]

If it was due for major check then it will be au revoir.

 

[moa999]

All depends on the lease agreements etc.
I am surprised that the return to lessor wasn't timed with another aircraft coming back from JQ

Some interesting insights from Investor Day Pres
https://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/about/investors/investor-day-presentation-2015.pdf

p.70 of the Investor Day Pres that the 737 reconfiguration (ie. jam in an extra row) commence mid-2015
p.75 that QF is looking to reduce to 35min aircraft turns by FY16-17

And new Domestic lounges in Brisbane (which AusBT has picked up on) and Darwin.
as well as Terminal Investments in Perth and Regional WA (not clear which airport)

p93. Also I think the first time JQ has said it is profitable (at EBIT level) in NZ
p95.Jetstsr Japan looks like it continues to lose lots

p125. QF Int is really utilising its fleet harder - 16% across fleet
p126. Frist set of stats on QF/EK partnership with 4x increase in codeshares, and EK getting higher loyalty penetration (from QF and eK)

p133. China Eastern logo given similar prominence to Emirates

 

[RickyT84]

With EBH now returned to the lessor, it appears that the second A332 that would be returned will be EBI.

Both aircrafts are owned by CIT Aerospace.

 

[Flyerqf]

With EBH now returned to the lessor, it appears that the second A332 that would be returned will be EBI.

Both aircrafts are owned by CIT Aerospace.

correct.

744 OJI is also due to be retired shortly. These will be the last widebody retirements for a while, until new aircraft arrive, whatever they may be.

 

[moa999]

correct.
744 OJI is also due to be retired shortly. These will be the last widebody retirements for a while, until new aircraft arrive, whatever they may be.

Still got 3 A330s with JQ, which will come back as its remaining 787s get delivered.
And then we are waiting for AJ.

 

[Isochronous]

QF 789s will be confirmed by year's end IMO.

 

[Dmac6345]

QF 789s will be confirmed by year's end IMO.

I am hoping for A350's instead. Much better looking aircraft IMO.

 

[michaele]

EK getting higher loyalty penetration (from QF and eK)

What do you mean by this Moa?

 

[moa999]

What do you mean by this Moa?

That's the statement on the slides - I assume it means there are more FFs on each flight

 

[Altair]

I assume that once they finalise the EBA with the relevant unions (pilots, cabin crew and maintenance) they will confirm the options, which IIRC will need to be done this year. So full year results time.

 

[esseeeayeenn]

I must admit that I'm surprised they are retiring an A330 right in the midst of an international aircraft shortage, while they are also pulling out A330s for refurbishments. EBH was an international config too - I would have expected them to get rid of an ex-JQ bird if anything. (I suppose it doesn't matter though if they're eventually refurbishing all of the remaining 330s)

Especially as they restore the PER-SIN route with a 737 instead of the former A330 service.

 

[whatmeworry]

That's the statement on the slides - I assume it means there are more FFs on each flight

More people cashing out their points?

 

[Altair]

I must admit that I'm surprised they are retiring an A330 right in the midst of an international aircraft shortage, while they are also pulling out A330s for refurbishments. EBH was an international config too - I would have expected them to get rid of an ex-JQ bird if anything. (I suppose it doesn't matter though if they're eventually refurbishing all of the remaining 330s)

The leasing rates for the A330 are increasing due to increased demand but I also think the impact of the A330NEO launch will accelerate value depreciation so leasing companies maybe trying to recoup this. QF may have decided they could not afford the new rates. SQ is returning very new A330s, at the same time as accepting new owned A330s, due to the increased leasing costs.

 

[jimmylikesitwet]

Looks like taking up the 787-9 options may be a little closer. I'm guessing this will be confirmed when the yearly results are announced in August.

Qantas closer to 787-9 Dreamliner order after striking wage deal with pilots

 

[AustraliaPoochie]

Side track: hope that QFs 787 dont have herring bone seating in PE/J.
Granted some like it, but to a plane buff who loves looking out the window, sitting in NZs J herring bone 777, I didnt like it.