Qantas Fleet

[mannej]

Are there really 5 more 738's coming ? I thought there were no more ?

QF will still need a few widebodies MEL-SYD-MEL those 767 flights are FULL in both J and Y and a 737 won't cut it for J passengers, although quite a few seem to be staff




As for HNL, it's going to be an A330 in the next 10 months!

Currently the 767 is
25J
208Y


Then it will be
30J
271Y

Which is a pretty good upgrade with about a 30% increase in seats

Don't forget the 332's which are 36J, 199Y

 

[anat0l]

Are there really 5 more 738's coming ? I thought there were no more ?

QF will still need a few widebodies MEL-SYD-MEL those 767 flights are FULL in both J and Y and a 737 won't cut it for J passengers, although quite a few seem to be staff

Maybe they'll just use existing 737s and shift the times. After all, if the pundits are to be believed, there is too much capacity for QF to work properly, so redeploying the excess capacity to more tactical times, even if all narrow bodies, might be a better idea.

I have a feeling that the age of domestic widebodies on short is limited.

 

[anat0l]

As for HNL, it's going to be an A330 in the next 10 months!

Currently the 767 is
25J
208Y


Then it will be
30J
271Y

Which is a pretty good upgrade with about a 30% increase in seats

Don't forget the 332's which are 36J, 199Y

I wonder what the configuration will be once QF start installing Business Suites into the A330 fleet. Of course, the questions will then be where will the first reconfigured A330 operate.

 

[lovestotravel]

I wonder what the configuration will be once QF start installing Business Suites into the A330 fleet. Of course, the questions will then be where will the first reconfigured A330 operate.

Indeed, and the A330 lottery will continue until September 2016 (from memory) so almost 2 years of whinges when a refurbished A330 get's subbed for a non-refurb! QF should restrict the A330 refurbs to specific routes to help manage this upcoming issue! We shall see.

As for the configuration, would be "smart' to keep a standard config on ALL A330's but then there is the added question of will all the A330's feature seat-back IFE or just the ones that already have it.... Time will tell again!

Maybe they'll just use existing 737s and shift the times. After all, if the pundits are to be believed, there is too much capacity for QF to work properly, so redeploying the excess capacity to more tactical times, even if all narrow bodies, might be a better idea.

I have a feeling that the age of domestic widebodies on short is limited.

Well QF does cancel 1-6 MEL-SYD-MEL flights per day from early April and still on-going, which I would suggest is simply trying to cut costs on a daily basis and the impact of a cancelled flight is minimal when there is another flight 15 or at worst, 30 mins later!

Quite an easy way to save 5000 litres (?) of fuel per flight cancelled, assuming $20k per day saving, that COULD be an easy $7 million pa saved!

Of course other costs come into it, but still......

 

[mannej]

I think the A330 refurb would give the chance for consistency amongst the fleet.
However, there seems to be information out there to suggest that this won't be the case.
They are happy to update the 333's in both Y and J, yet the 332's coming back from JQ will only get Q-Streaming.
If you are going to take them offline, you may as well do the job properly.

 

[lovestotravel]

I think the A330 refurb would give the chance for consistency amongst the fleet.
However, there seems to be information out there to suggest that this won't be the case.
They are happy to update the 333's in both Y and J, yet the 332's coming back from JQ will only get Q-Streaming.
If you are going to take them offline, you may as well do the job properly.

Well some of the JQ A332's already have seat-back IFE so not sure what they are doing

I am guessing that aircraft that do not have seat-back IFE will simply not get it, except for perhaps J, but then if they are fitting a new system to J then it would make sense to do Y as well, given these aircraft are going to live out their final days with QF....

 

[mannej]

Well some of the JQ A332's already have seat-back IFE so not sure what they are doing

I am guessing that aircraft that do not have seat-back IFE will simply not get it, except for perhaps J, but then if they are fitting a new system to J then it would make sense to do Y as well, given these aircraft are going to live out their final days with QF....

They are all back at QF - from what I can gather, the JQ 332's currently do not have seat back IFE.

I don't get why they would botch the chance for consistency amongst the fleet. Surely it would deliver a greater flexibility if they were to do it properly at the first chance.

 

[Isochronous]

how about 14 PE seats in all the A330s!

 

[lovestotravel]

They are all back at QF - from what I can gather, the JQ 332's currently do not have seat back IFE.

I don't get why they would botch the chance for consistency amongst the fleet. Surely it would deliver a greater flexibility if they were to do it properly at the first chance.

Because the bean counters wanted to reuse the 2000 ish iPads they purchased only 18 months ago...

 

[Flyerqf]

EBS has already been in Qantas colours for some time.

EBS was painted only last year when transferred from JQ to QF.

 

[markis10]

According to The Qantas Source, A330 EBS is under maintenance in Singapore at the moment.

Is this the first time Qantas has maintained A330s outside of Brisbane?

Qantas brought the A330 maint back in country in 2010, it's was overseas before then.

 

[maninblack]

We don't know yet if QF will use A332 or A333 for HNL but I'd punt in favour of the bigger Y capacity aircraft.

 

[Shan Man]

even if all narrow bodies, might be a better idea.

I have a feeling that the age of domestic widebodies on short is limited.

Go wash your mouth out with soap!

 

[docjames]

Surprised there wasn't thought to a few 737-900s / A321s.....

 

[TheEmu]

Surprised there wasn't thought to a few 737-900s / A321s.....

Probably a couple of spare J*HK-bound A320s they might be able to press into service...

 

[docjames]

Probably a couple of spare J*HK-bound A320s they might be able to press into service...

I was thinking more when they converted some of the A320 or 738 orders to firm and given the plans to phase out the 763s they might have looked at this as an option??

 

[markis10]

OJL, one of three F class birds operates 107 on the 26th then off to VCV.

 

[anat0l]

OJL, one of three F class birds operates 107 on the 26th then off to VCV.

Have had quite a few flights on OJL, aka "Ballarat". Vale.

 

[sydstar]

And OJA keeps going strong!

 

[amaroo]

Always fascinating looking at the history of these flying machines.

VH-OJL Boeing 747

Second of two Boeing 747-438s ordered new by Qantas - September 1, 1989​

Rolled off the Boeing production line at Seattle (Everett) - June 17, 1991​

Powered by Rolls Royce RB211-524G2 engines​

First flown as VH-OJL - July 5, 1991​

Entered onto the Australian Aircraft Register as VH-OJL - July 23, 1991​

Registered to Hollymount Leasing Ltd, U.S. Cayman Islands​

Leased to Qantas Airways Ltd, Sydney​

Aircraft named 'City of Ballarat' at Seattle - July 23, 1991​

Ferried Seattle - Las Vegas as QF7412D (Captain D. Massey-Green) - July 23, 1991​

Accepted by Qantas at Las Vegas - July 23, 1991​

Ferried Las Vegas - Vancouver as QF7412P (Captain D. Massey-Green) - July 23, 1991​

Operated first revenue service Vancouver - Sydney as QF531 - July 24, 1991​

Arrived Sydney at conclusion of delivery flight - July 26, 1991​

Delivery route: Seattle - Las Vegas - Vancouver - Sydney​

Wet leased by Ansett Australia to cover temporary loss of 747 VH-INH - October 27 - 28, 1994​

Operated Ansett Australia service Sydney - Kansai - Brisbane - Sydney with small 'Ansett' titles​

Operated Turkish Airlines service London - Istanbul - London as TK3502 / 3503 - June 19, 1998​

Registered to Montana Leasing Ltd - May 3, 2006​

Leased to Qantas Airways Ltd, Sydney as registered operator​

Registered to TJL Leasing Pty Ltd - January 5, 2010​

Leased to Qantas Airways Ltd as registered operator​

Operated 'last' revenue service Los Angeles - Brisbane as QF16 - February 1 - 2, 2010​

Ferried Brisbane - Melbourne (Avalon) as QF6018 for storage - February 2, 2010​

Ferried Melbourne (Avalon) - Sydney as QF6196 - July 3, 2010​

Returned to service Sydney - Bangkok - London (Heathrow) as QF1 - July 3, 2010​

Current with Qantas - 2012​