Plane crash in Brazil

[Steady]

Just saw on the news 62 (edited) dead after a plane crashed in Brazil

Plane crash in Brazil kills all 61 people on board, local officials say

Speaking at a press conference shortly after the crash, President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva asked for a minute of silence for the victims.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Mwenenzi]

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The Aviation Herald

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A Voepass Linhas Aereas Avions de Transport Regional ATR-72-212A, registration PS-VPB performing flight 2Z-2283 from Cascavel,PR to Sao Paulo Guarulhos,SP (Brazil) with 57 passengers and 4 crew, was in the initial approach at about FL170, when the aircraft spun out of control and crashed into a residential area in Vila Santa Fe,SP (Brazil) about 7nm southeast of Viracopos Airport and about 40nm northwest of Guarulhos Airport, approximate coordinates S23.050 W47.020, at about 13:22L (16:22Z). The aircraft broke into several parts and burst into flames. All occupants perished in the crash.

 

[jb747]

Horrifying video, but sadly the FR24 data (even the granular form) doesn't really give an indication of the why?

 

[jase05]

Horrifying video, but sadly the FR24 data (even the granular form) doesn't really give an indication of the why?

I’ve seen one or two suggestions of ice being an issue but I guess more information will eventually surface

 

[jakeseven7]

Condolences to all touched by this tragedy

 

[jb747]

I’ve seen one or two suggestions of ice being an issue but I guess more information will eventually surface

I've seen them too, but not from what I'd consider a reliable source. Basically just people on the net saying that it must be icing, because it happened once before.

Airliners encounter icing regularly, and all have some form of protection. The aircraft that crashed in the USA had been holding for an extended period in icing conditions, with the flaps partially extended. That allowed ice formation around the hinge area of the flaps, which wouldn't have happened if they'd been retracted.

Taken to an extreme, icing could lead you to a stall, and perhaps a spiral dive, but this was a fully developed spin. That's quite a different animal. We simply don't know enough, to make anything but guesses, and most that I've seen are not what I'd call informed ones.

 

[k_sheep]

I thought it was very difficult for planes NOT to glide ... that video is giving me new nightmares. Eesh.

 

[RooFlyer]

Coverage by Juan Browne. Commentary of the difficulty of the plane to extracted from a spin.

 

[jb747]

Coverage by Juan Browne. Commentary of the difficulty of the plane to extracted from a spin.

This bloke might be a bit more relevant: