Pets in the Cabin - Coming soon on Virgin Australia

I'd imagine the same as what happens as a passenger breaking any other rules on a plane. They'd get a talking to. If they don't comply they'd be forced and met by police on landing. It's not really rocket science.
BUT! But you are talking here about pet owners who are often, how shall I say, insensitive, to others around them. :)
 
When I go to markets, pubs, cafes on weekends, I see most pets and their owners behaving well, as in I rarely see any who misbehave.

Also having lived with cats and dogs, I'm still amazed at how good they are at holding. They would hold until they see their 'toilets', even if you tell them that it's OK to wee or poo.

On the other hand, when I get home on a Friday or Saturday night, which involves full 60 mins on the M2 motorway, people on the bus:
- vomit on the bus
- ask bus driver to stop at the former toll plaza to pee
- vape
- singing
- talking loud
- open drinks (as in alcohol)

I feel more comfortable flying with pets, I have more fear from flying JQ to Bali, or seeing babies and children on a plane.
 
I feel more comfortable flying with pets, I have more fear from flying JQ to Bali, or seeing babies and children on a plane.
I fully agree with you on this one. Just got back from Auckland with a screaming kid most of the way.
Is it just me, or do some of you want to scream back at them in the same manner, and say, "See, it's very annoying, isn't it?" (must keep inner dialogue to myself).
 
Easier to control than a screaming child
Yep. Once you have really stressed to a dog that everything is good and you mean business, they get it 99% of the time, unless it's from some trauma / PTSD. If there is trauma or PTSD, they would not even be able to make it half way to the airport.

Just got back from Auckland with a screaming kid most of the way.

I have been kicked by kids so many times in short haul economy. Parents either can't control them, or just ignore what's happening.

When I have a word with the kids, they would stop for a few minutes.

I get it, it's boring and frustrating to be a child on a plane, it's jail time; but the parents should plan for it, just like planning for a long car trip. Which they either fail, or just don't plan.
 
BUT! But you are talking here about pet owners who are often, how shall I say, insensitive, to others around them. :)

Got any reputable data to back that up? Are pet owners more insensitive to others around them than non-pet owners? Especially on aircraft?

I feel that's a throw-away comment that the data doesn't support ;)
 
Completely inappropriate to allow pets in the passenger cabins of aircraft.

While we hope never (or extremely rarely) to have forced evacuations, I bet some entitled pet owners would bring their charges on the slide despite crew instructions to the contrary.

The thought of putting up with a yapping dog or howling cat on a plane isn't pleasant.
 
While we hope never (or extremely rarely) to have forced evacuations, I bet some entitled pet owners would bring their charges on the slide despite crew instructions to the contrary.

What about people who carry their backpacks during evacuations? Like on THAT American Air AA flight?

The thought of putting up with a yapping dog or howling cat on a plane isn't pleasant.

Guess you don't use public transport? Buses and trains?

The number of times I have seen dogs behaving poorly in pubs and cafes? I am not sure if I could fill 5 fingers?

Kids and adults behaving poorly on public transport? Every single day during my commute into the CBD.
- man spreading
- littering
- vaping
- talking non stop for 65 km (from Sydney to Penrith)
- watching videos on speakerphone
- playing music on speakerphone
- spitting
- putting ebike in the middle of the carriage instead of wheelchair area
- letting luggage flying around instead of securing them in wheelchair area
- not giving seats to people who need them
- blocking rear door on buses
- trying to get on trains before letting people get off first.

I don't think dogs do any of these, and they definitely don't block exits, unlike human :rolleyes:

A dog barking for 15 mins is hard; but I don't know if you have experienced someone playing loud music or talking on the phone for the entire 65 km journey on a full train.
 
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Completely inappropriate to allow pets in the passenger cabins of aircraft.

While we hope never (or extremely rarely) to have forced evacuations, I bet some entitled pet owners would bring their charges on the slide despite crew instructions to the contrary.

The thought of putting up with a yapping dog or howling cat on a plane isn't pleasant.
No doubt tens of thousands of pets have been carried in europe and the US. No evidence yet to suggest they have impeded an evacuation?

And again, while the *thought* of a yapping dog - the same as a crying baby - is not pleasant… have you ever heard a pet crying on a flight in the US or Europe?

I admit however i would almost certainly attempt to take my pet in the event of an evacuation. You’d have to have some sort superhuman willpower not to. That’s nothing to do with being entitled… that’s just ‘normal’ behaviour.

Obviously if the fire is lapping at your seat you might be forced to leave the pet, but otherwise I’d reckon most people would attempt to take it. Guide dogs for example go down the slide with their owner.
 
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