PER-SYD-MEL vs PER-SYD?

[DJ737]

Hi there

Noticed that PER-SYD-MEL is $1299 in J, but PER-SYD is $1399 for the same PER-SYD flight, is it OK to buy the PER-SYD-MEL flights and do a runner in SYD? (I will only have carry on)

Cheers

 

[Mh4k]

One-way it's no problem. For return fares you generally will be prevented from using the return leg if the outward leg wasn't completed, AFAIK.

 

[MarkD]

One-way it's no problem. For return fares you generally will be prevented from using the return leg if the outward leg wasn't completed, AFAIK.

Really ????
Wow, thats heavy handed. So if DJ737 gets to Syd and says, hooroo Im off, I paid $1300 for a J tkt, and my plans have changed, I am getting off here, they are going to prevent him/her travelling further with them?? Am I missing something? Seems like a very strange attitude to take against a premium fare paying customer. I dont know the answers, my personal view is that if you speak to them, they will be more than happy to let you do whatever you want. Bottom line is you cannot be forced to travel, so Im guessing you can get off wherever you like.

Simple solution I guess is to buy 2 x 1 way sectors. No drama at all then.

 

[Mh4k]

I can't say how VA will handle it, but my experience with other airlines is that such changes are generally not permitted.

 

[mannej]

Really ????
Wow, thats heavy handed. So if DJ737 gets to Syd and says, hooroo Im off, I paid $1300 for a J tkt, and my plans have changed, I am getting off here, they are going to prevent him/her travelling further with them?? Am I missing something? Seems like a very strange attitude to take against a premium fare paying customer. I dont know the answers, my personal view is that if you speak to them, they will be more than happy to let you do whatever you want. Bottom line is you cannot be forced to travel, so Im guessing you can get off wherever you like.

Simple solution I guess is to buy 2 x 1 way sectors. No drama at all then.

It can be done. However if in the fare conditions there is a penalty for doing such thing, theoretically an airline can take action.
There are cases where indirect routings are cheaper for what ever reasons. The likes of Travel Guru would be able to fill you in further.

 

[Hvr]

Really ????
Wow, thats heavy handed. So if DJ737 gets to Syd and says, hooroo Im off, I paid $1300 for a J tkt, and my plans have changed, I am getting off here, they are going to prevent him/her travelling further with them??

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Simple solution I guess is to buy 2 x 1 way sectors. No drama at all then.

It is very common to cancel all further travel on a ticket if a segment is missed, I reckon all airlines do it.

Google 'hidden city ticketing' for more threads on various internet boards for further information and experiences about this situation.

And if you do decide to not fly the final segment, go up to a desk at SYD and tell them you are unable to fly the final segment due to a family emergency or something similar.

It means they aren't chasing you and potentially delaying the plane.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

What do they do with points and SCs in that case?

Award nothing (as trip was not completed), or award only for the sectors flown (in the case of SCs)? As the points are fare based, what then?

There was a similar thread ("Unsellable seat" or something like that) that may provide some answers.

 

[MarkD]

It is very common to cancel all further travel on a ticket if a segment is missed, I reckon all airlines do it.

Google 'hidden city ticketing' for more threads on various internet boards for further information and experiences about this situation.

And if you do decide to not fly the final segment, go up to a desk at SYD and tell them you are unable to fly the final segment due to a family emergency or something similar.

It means they aren't chasing you and potentially delaying the plane.

I Understand that to just not show up woiuld be very poor form, but even if you communicated with the airline involved, are you saying they would still cancel a return trip? Not being a smartarse, I honestly dont know. Im not likely to ever try it either, as I like to get wherever I am going in the quickest possible time, and mostly down the back.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Here's the link to that other thread I mentioned. It was 777 who experienced this issue, so perhaps you may wish to PM him and ask the outcome.

http://www.australianfrequentflyer....elocity/unsellable-seat-32233.html#post475205

 

[mannej]

I Understand that to just not show up woiuld be very poor form, but even if you communicated with the airline involved, are you saying they would still cancel a return trip? Not being a smartarse, I honestly dont know. Im not likely to ever try it either, as I like to get wherever I am going in the quickest possible time, and mostly down the back.

Yes the return would likely be cancelled for the no show. I guess this is where the communication is vital

 

[Up&away]

Surely with a J fare, you're entitled to change/cancel/re-route at any point up to 24 hours after departure. In this case you could just get off and then call and remove the extra leg from your ticket keeping the return intact.

Or just book two one-ways as suggested.

I've had return Y travel denied because I didn't check in or fly on the outbound leg. It's quite frustrating. It's your seat, it should be yours to do or not do with as you please.

 

[mannej]

I've had return Y travel denied because I didn't check in or fly on the outbound leg. It's quite frustrating. It's your seat, it should be yours to do or not do with as you please.

Except you are bound by the fare conditions of the travel class you have paid for. No Shows are most probably defined in these conditions.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

777's reply with regard to the awarding of SCs and points on the unsellable seat thread, FYI.

I got both YMMV though.

 

[trooper]

The advice to read up on "hidden city" ticketing is spot on.... Objections to those restrictions tend to be based upon the assumption that airfares are directly related to distance flown/# of segments, when in fact that is often (nearly always?) irrelevent.

Airlines sell fares in different markets at different prices... due to competition and other factors.. and often the cheap AAA-BBB-CCC flight uses exactly the same BBB-CCC flight which costs far more if booked alone. If one could use "your" seats as you wished, everyone would book the cheap fare and only fly the expensive segment... at a price directed/marketed not at their point of origin, but at the original city.. where the airline may be competing with mutliple others or LCC's.... hence the "usual" fare condition that one flies all the segments in order.

It's a fact of life (and can be used to good advantage of course)

As to changeability.. not all J fares are changeable!!!!!