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"oneworld" award (140K/280K/420K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

Aussiejosh

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I had my booking start with a Tokyo to Vancouver leg, which has ended up being my 3rd flight. Starting trip in Perth and any emails I receive are from Japanese office and taxes have to be calculated from Yen to AUD
 
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I had my booking start with a Tokyo to Vancouver leg, which has ended up being my 3rd flight. Starting trip in Perth and any emails I receive are from Japanese office and taxes have to be calculated from Yen to AUD
That sounds promising...
Now we need to determine whether the co-payments & taxes are being calculated according to Japanese rules or Australian rules.
 

fastferret

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Hi all,

I had a very successful 280k trip for 2 in 2016. I want to do another in June 2020 and trying to get back up to speed on this.

A tentative plan is: SYD-NRT-CTS; CTS-HEL; HEL-CFU; CFU-MAD-CMN; RAK-LHR; MXP-HKG-SYD

As far as HEL seems ok but HEL-CFU seems a problem. Finnair have a direct flight, but all the dates I trial show three flights with transfers somewhere in Scandinavia and in London. Is HEL-CFU going to be impossible?

Also CFU-MAD-CMN seems difficult. The Iberian flights don't come up. The Qantas site shows some CFU-LHR-DOH-CMN, but this seems very round about.

I'm not sure what availability there might be to fly home from MXP. I'd prefer QR or CX.

Do people think this will work out, or should I revise my plans?
 

11sjw

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Hi all,

I had a very successful 280k trip for 2 in 2016. I want to do another in June 2020 and trying to get back up to speed on this.

A tentative plan is: SYD-NRT-CTS; CTS-HEL; HEL-CFU; CFU-MAD-CMN; RAK-LHR; MXP-HKG-SYD

As far as HEL seems ok but HEL-CFU seems a problem. Finnair have a direct flight, but all the dates I trial show three flights with transfers somewhere in Scandinavia and in London. Is HEL-CFU going to be impossible?

Also CFU-MAD-CMN seems difficult. The Iberian flights don't come up. The Qantas site shows some CFU-LHR-DOH-CMN, but this seems very round about.

I'm not sure what availability there might be to fly home from MXP. I'd prefer QR or CX.

Do people think this will work out, or should I revise my plans?
Ring up and see what can be done.
 

madrooster

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Interesting indeed. Would have been more than happy to book MNL-HKG with a stopover then HKG-FRA on CX and then later drop the MNL-HKG sector and still have the entire trip priced in Peso...
That sounds promising...
Now we need to determine whether the co-payments & taxes are being calculated according to Japanese rules or Australian rules.
Nice to know. I am looking at making some booking and was going to get a bit creative.
Worst comes to worst, I might need to brush up on my Tagalog ;)
Taxes and fuel fines can be filed by either point of sale, or point of origin. The majority are filed based on point of origin these days.

If you start with a MNL origin and then change to a SYD origin and the change auto prices, then you will find it will just charge you the AU fuel fines. If you however 'break' the system and someone has to manually price it... they might conveniently forget the fuel fines.
 

motef

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So looking for some advice about booking legs that are in high demand and timing.

At the moment am looking at 2 pax in J

BNE-SIN (3days) -CMB-MLE (4days)-DOH-CDG (10days)-HEL-DOH (over 2days)-SYD

Checking for J seats in these legs consistenly for a few days shows that there is availability but it gets snapped up pretty quick (in less than 1hr sometimes)

As the flights are pretty spread out is my only option book the leg that opens first (T-361days) and just keep calling the QF team each time the next leg gets to T-361 and adding it?

Two of the legs MLE-DOH-CDG and HEL-DOH-SYD actually fall over two calendar days so would I just book MLE-DOH one day and the next day book DOH-CDG and the same for HEL-DOH then DOH-SYD?

Thanks
 

Danger

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So looking for some advice about booking legs that are in high demand and timing.

At the moment am looking at 2 pax in J

BNE-SIN (3days) -CMB-MLE (4days)-DOH-CDG (10days)-HEL-DOH (over 2days)-SYD

Checking for J seats in these legs consistenly for a few days shows that there is availability but it gets snapped up pretty quick (in less than 1hr sometimes)

As the flights are pretty spread out is my only option book the leg that opens first (T-361days) and just keep calling the QF team each time the next leg gets to T-361 and adding it?

Two of the legs MLE-DOH-CDG and HEL-DOH-SYD actually fall over two calendar days so would I just book MLE-DOH one day and the next day book DOH-CDG and the same for HEL-DOH then DOH-SYD?

Thanks
Unfortunately, yes. Book as soon as you can see the seats. For that reason it's not at all uncommon for the 140k/280k/420k to cost significantly more once changes are taken into account.

From memory, Qatar uses married segment logic which means while you may find MLE-DOH, for example, you may not find MLE-xDOH-CDG. But, again, book when it comes available. The upside with HEL-SYD is that there are a number of options other than via DOH so if points are an issue, you may consider holding off booking that one until all the flights you need are available. You also have a tonne of miles up your sleeve (as in the maximum number of miles you can fly on this award) and as you're flying in J I'd absolutely be looking to maximise that.
 

motef

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Unfortunately, yes. Book as soon as you can see the seats. For that reason it's not at all uncommon for the 140k/280k/420k to cost significantly more once changes are taken into account.

From memory, Qatar uses married segment logic which means while you may find MLE-DOH, for example, you may not find MLE-xDOH-CDG. But, again, book when it comes available. The upside with HEL-SYD is that there are a number of options other than via DOH so if points are an issue, you may consider holding off booking that one until all the flights you need are available. You also have a tonne of miles up your sleeve (as in the maximum number of miles you can fly on this award) and as you're flying in J I'd absolutely be looking to maximise that.
What does the small x signify?
 

pweekes

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Scenario - I want to travel from TYO to WAW in J (my preference is to fly via DOH) Search on QF and flights are mostly mixed with EK. If I search segments separately, I can find availability TYO to DOH and DOH to WAW on QR. Would this fall within the rules? Could I also mix carriers doing this?
 

motef

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Scenario - I want to travel from TYO to WAW in J (my preference is to fly via DOH) Search on QF and flights are mostly mixed with EK. If I search segments separately, I can find availability TYO to DOH and DOH to WAW on QR. Would this fall within the rules? Could I also mix carriers doing this?
Having two separate QR legs is within the rules. So you could book TYO-DOH-WAW legitimately

You cannot include EK. EK is not a Oneworld member.
 

pweekes

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Having two separate QR legs is within the rules. So you could book TYO-DOH-WAW legitimately

You cannot include EK. EK is not a Oneworld member.
Thanks. I was aware that I could not include EK which is why I was seeking an alternative but I did not make that clear.

My concern was that QR was not making the trip TYO to WAW available for a reason and would therefore not be bookable as part of the award. Glad to see this is not the case. Thanks again for your response.
 

N860CR

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QR does have married segment issues. Although it doesn’t seem as bad as it once was. You can solve that by spending 24 hours in DOH, but it’ll obviously count as a stop. Also a reminder that you can have two transits AND a stop in the same city, so you can sacrifice a stop but gain an additional transit through Doha.
 

pweekes

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QR does have married segment issues. Although it doesn’t seem as bad as it once was. You can solve that by spending 24 hours in DOH, but it’ll obviously count as a stop. Also a reminder that you can have two transits AND a stop in the same city, so you can sacrifice a stop but gain an additional transit through Doha.
Ok, this is what I was worried about as I don’t want DOH to be a stop. Could I work around this by mixing carriers? JL from TYO to DOH and then QR DOH to WAW or would the fact that it’s on the same ticket cause the same issues?
 

N860CR

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Mixed carriers should fix it if there are seats available. That can cause dramas with the online system though so you may be stuck booking over the phone.
 

Jacques Vert

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My concern was that QR was not making the trip TYO to WAW available for a reason and would therefore not be bookable as part of the award.
Try doing a dummy booking online; if the system prices it you should be OK. IME, it is not unusual for the QR online system to NOT show a through booking on QR, even when married segments are not involved.
 

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