"oneworld" award (132.4K/249.6K/318K/455K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

[Phoenix-1]

Thankyou, I'll be in business so I'll have lounge access - which would be better - Schengen or non-Schengen?

I'm thinking just to be safe, to enter the Schengen area ASAP and just access that lounge there.

Non-schengen for sure.

 

[MelbFlyer]

Non-schengen for sure.

Thankyou, due to my short layover I'll probably just head to the Schengen area and lounge.

 

[ellen10]

Thankyou, due to my short layover I'll probably just head to the Schengen area and lounge.

I think I will do the same next April.
We fly in from Japan and have a 2 hour break until our next AY flight to Budapest.

 

[Maybloomer]

BA flight? Well known but rarely mentioned.

It was BA flight. I might be BA's way to get back at QF for keeping the Ashes

 

[Mr H]

It was ...

It is a really, really dumb idea to post about loopholes on a public forum. If you get a win, just smile inwardly and don't broadcast it.

 

[DC3]

It is a really, really dumb idea to post about loopholes on a public forum. If you get a win, just smile inwardly and don't broadcast it.

What? Still not deleted?

 

[blu]

What are the options for having AFF or an Agent find July 2024 J awards in and out of EU (with fee for service)? Not for me, someone else.

edit: have found a similar thread for this question.

 

[DC3]

What are the options for having AFF or an Agent find July 2024 J awards in and out of EU (with fee for service)? Not for me, someone else.

Also, they could always do it themself, unless we are missing something.

 

[LukeO9]

<13.5.5 Surface Segments are permitted as part of oneworld Award Itineraries, but the distance between the disembarkation point and the next embarkation point will be included.>
Are Surface Segments counted as Sectors ?
Also, if the surface segment is not available as a direct OW flight, is the distance of the 2 sectors counted ?

 

[Mr H]

<13.5.5 Surface Segments are permitted as part of oneworld Award Itineraries, but the distance between the disembarkation point and the next embarkation point will be included.>
Are Surface Segments counted as Sectors ?
Also, if the surface segment is not available as a direct OW flight, is the distance of the 2 sectors counted ?

I have assumed, but not 100% sure, that the surface segment counts as one of the 16 permitted sectors. The distance will be calculated based on point to point, not on potential OW connecting flights.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

From the Book of Rules (my bolding)…

13.2.4 A Reward Flight Itinerary must contain no more than 16 Segments (including any Surface Segments).

 

[soarer]

With respect to OWA rules,
13.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply:
(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary.

In the same itinerary, can anyone confirm that one can do a stopover in, say, Singapore, and also do one or two Transfers also in Singapore?

 

[GDale]

With respect to OWA rules,
13.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply:
(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary.

In the same itinerary, can anyone confirm that one can do a stopover in, say, Singapore, and also do one or two Transfers also in Singapore?

You can definitely do 1+1, and I'm 99% certain you can do 1+2 as well.

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

With respect to OWA rules,
13.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply:
(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary.

In the same itinerary, can anyone confirm that one can do a stopover in, say, Singapore, and also do one or two Transfers also in Singapore?

Yes, I have done 2 transfers AND 1 stopover in the same city in the same OWCA Itinerary.

 

[soarer]

With respect to OWA rules,
13.5.4 The following Stopover conditions apply:
(a) up to five free Stopovers are permitted;
(b) additional Stopovers are not permitted;
(c) only one Stopover is permitted in any one city in the Itinerary; and
(d) only two Transfers may be taken at any one city in the Itinerary.

In the same itinerary, can anyone confirm that one can do a stopover in, say, Singapore, and also do one or two Transfers also in Singapore?

thanks.

Post automatically merged: Aug 29, 2023

Yes, I have done 2 transfers AND 1 stopover in the same city in the same OWCA Itinerary.

thanks

 

[MelbFlyer]

*** Question has been answered, thankyou for the helpful posters ***

 

[There'sOnlyOneJimmy]

So with my upcoming trip, I've done a number of changes since the initial booking - have changed class of travel and dates etc.

To get there though, there was more than 100 phone calls made, as 90% of the consultants I encountered were unable to see what I could see online (reward seats that were showing online). This then forced me to HUACA until I got a consultant that could see the reward seats and make the changes.

The latest change(s) which I've done is as per below:
1. Changed the class and date for the final leg of my trip - which included upgrading the Economy leg to Business and moved it to a day later

The points charged prior to the above change was 326,200pts, then with the change of seats it was re-calculated to 373,100pts (an increase of 46,900pts due to Economy > Business)

I then did another change afterwards after working out why it wasn't being capped under the OWA Business 318k cap :
2. Removed the ineligible OWA leg, the points then re-calculated down to 318,000pts

So far, I've not been charged the additional 46,900pts for the first change, but the below has been done (for the 2nd change):

326,200pts refunded
318,000pts charged

No change fee has come up in the points log as of yet, nor the 373,100pts.

On both occasions though, each itinerary was re-ticketed soon after the phone call(s).

I contacted the [email protected] email to explain the situation in detail and surprisingly got a quick response from them.

They've stated that due to some of my flights being with partner airlines, they had prioritized re-ticketing my itinerary (due to the known issues of not re-ticketing in time), even despite no points being deducted and that due to this, the deduction of points is delayed.

As of today (4 weeks later), I've still not been deducted the points that I expected to be - but I guess if / once they do, it'll be the 373,100pts plus the change fees.

As per another poster, I'm not posting about Qantas missing / undercharging, it's moreso that I don't want any issues when it comes time to travel. Everything is ticketed though and e-ticket numbers are showing on the Royal Jordanian website.

Long story short / TL;DR:
Original itinerary - 326,200pts
1st change (Economy to Business and date change) - 373,100pts
2nd change (removing the ineligible for a capped OWA) - 318,000pts

The 2nd change has been processed, but not the 1st change - all e-ticketed though.

Unless I’m not correctly understanding your story, it seems to me that you’ve ended up with all the changes you want, fully ticketed, with the correct 318k points used.
The only step you can’t see is the 373k deduction & subsequent reimbursement - which QFF *may* have chosen to skip, due to it being redundant.
I think that you’re probably ok.

 

[MelbFlyer]

Unless I’m not correctly understanding your story, it seems to me that you’ve ended up with all the changes you want, fully ticketed, with the correct 318k points used.
The only step you can’t see is the 373k deduction & subsequent reimbursement - which QFF *may* have chosen to skip, due to it being redundant.
I think that you’re probably ok.

Yes, sorry for the long winded post - that is correct.

I'm just a tad concerned that the 373k points was not deducted, that somehow there may be an issue with my itinerary, even though it's been ticketed.

I'll still keep my eye on it, as I'm expecting the change fees to apply plus the 373k charge / reimbursement.

 

[DC3]

I'm just a tad concerned that the …. points …

Yes, best to leave it. I once had QF not (re)deduct a heap of points following an amendment to the itinerary. It didn’t affect anything else.

Edited: Some of the quoted content deleted to add some opaqueness.

 

[Mr H]

I'm just a tad concerned

You have been deducted the correct number of points for the redemption and it has been ticketed. Unless you have a deathwish, just leave it alone. If they neglected to apply a change fee just accept it as a win - and for goodness sake don't post about it.