"oneworld" award (132.4K/249.6K/318K/455K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

[Mr H]

And unfortunately nothing suitable in J to get me from JFK to LAX on the dates I need, so I will buying a ticket (will consider it a SC earning opportunity to kick start my new FF year).

Hoping to replace
LHR-HEL (AY)
with
LHR-BHD (BA)+ DUB-HEL (AY)

Dont fancy chances of getting a HBA agent tonight will try tomorrow morning or monday morning.

You have probably thought of all this already - an alternative to LHR-BHD is to fly from LCY. There is no lounge there but the planes are arguably more comfortable and the airport may be easier to get to (depending on where you are starting).

If you are trying to fly ex DUB to avoid APD, I think you could get there direct LON-DUB provided you either have a 24 hour layover or do it on different tix. I am not an expert so others may be able to clarify, but I suspect that even LON-BHD/DUB-HEL on the same ticket would attract APD unless there is a layover of more than 24 hours. It's fiendishly complicated.

 

[Lynda2475]

You have probably thought of all this already - an alternative to LHR-BHD is to fly from LCY. There is no lounge there but the planes are arguably more comfortable and the airport may be easier to get to (depending on where you are starting).

Good pick-up it was a typo on my part, it is LCY-BHD Im looking at - will fix it.

If you are trying to fly ex DUB to avoid APD

No looking at DUB-HEL because decided to do a tour of Ireland and that is where it finsihes, and because of dates cant get back to LHR to make original flight.

If I cant get DUB-HEL then I may also need to move other flights or buy one.

I would think departure tax from DUB would be lower than LHR, but I am also no expert on that. Ireland being EU flying to another EU, vs UK to EU.

 

[Mr H]

No looking at DUB-HEL because decided to do a tour of Ireland and that is where it finsihes, and because of dates cant get back to LHR to make original flight.

If I cant get DUB-HEL then I may also need to move other flights or buy one.

I would think departure teax from DUB would be lower than LHR, but I am also no expert.

Enjoy Ireland. Belfast is my happy place. Pack an umbrella.

I doubt there would be much competition for seats on DUB-HEL - failing that you could go via LHR and there is/was plentiful availability on LHR-HEL last time I checked.

I think the UK is unique in its approach to APD so there would be no equivalent charge ex DUB.

By the way, for flights LCY-BHD there is almost no difference between Y and J. The only points of difference are seating near the front of the cabin, moire luggage allowance and better on-board catering. There is no lounge, same seating as Y and no blocked off seats. But the seats are pretty comfortable.

 

[Lynda2475]

Enjoy Ireland. Belfast is my happy place. Pack an umbrella.

Thanks, that is the plan. Will be a flying visit, a couple of days then I'll take the train to Dublin for my wee tour.

Will reach out for some recomendations when it gets closer.

I doubt there would be much competition for seats on DUB-HEL

I hope you are correct (as there is no Y availablity, but J was showing).

moire luggage allowance

Im wanting to ensure 2 checked bags for the whole trip, and since its a J OWA seems a waste to pick Y even on one leg if it can be avoided.

 

[gfraser]

We have a OWA in Sept originating in Mel and terminating in Sin - on our way back from Europe we have a few days in Cmb.
Next July 2024 we want to go back to Cmb, hopefully using the same PNR And therefore part of the same OWA.
Our miles etc are ok but I don’t think we can have 2 stopovers - is this correct?
Or alternatively can we make our own way to Cmb and book Cmb to Mel on the same PNR?

 

[Mr H]

We have a OWA in Sept originating in Mel and terminating in Sin - on our way back from Europe we have a few days in Cmb.
Next July 2024 we want to go back to Cmb, hopefully using the same PNR And therefore part of the same OWA.
Our miles etc are ok but I don’t think we can have 2 stopovers - is this correct?
Or alternatively can we make our own way to Cmb and book Cmb to Mel on the same PNR?

If your OWA starts in Australia, you cannot leave Australia a second time. You also cannot have a second stopover in CMB. But you are right that you could use the OWA to fly home from CMB provided you book the flight before you commence your travel on your OWA.

 

[gfraser]

If your OWA starts in Australia, you cannot leave Australia a second time. You also cannot have a second stopover in CMB. But you are right that you could use the OWA to fly home from CMB provided you book the flight before you commence your travel on your OWA.

So if we make our own way to CMB ( another PNR or paid ticket ) we can use the previous SIN as a stopover or open-jaw to CMB and then continue with the original OWA to get from CMB to MEL?

 

[Mr H]

So if we make our own way to CMB ( another PNR or paid ticket ) we can use the previous SIN as a stopover or open-jaw to CMB and then continue with the original OWA to get from CMB to MEL?

Yes, I believe so. SIN to CMB would have to be open jaw since you will already have used it for a stopover. Then you can travel directly out indirectly to MEL resuming your original OWA. Unless anyone wiser can spot a problem.

 

[Tonkatough]

Likely a through-fare issue. Have you got room in your OWA for a night or 2 in DOH?

Thank you djkelly69, yes that is one good option.

Would you or anyone have any routing suggestions with J availability, departing London on 5 July 2023 to Hong Kong with any possible connection...?

 

[Mr H]

Would you or anyone have any routing suggestions with J availability, departing London on 5 July 2023 to Hong Kong with any possible connection...?

I would recommend looking for yourself - The QF Multi City tool is your friend.

 

[djkelly69]

Would you or anyone have any routing suggestions with J availability, departing London on 5 July 2023 to Hong Kong with any possible connection...?

LHR-BOM-HKG seems possible, but first leg would be PE.

 

[pjm99au]

Thank you djkelly69, yes that is one good option.

Would you or anyone have any routing suggestions with J availability, departing London on 5 July 2023 to Hong Kong with any possible connection...?

It’s drawn out but there are 2x J

14:15 5/7 BA 119 LHR - BLR with a 21 hr stopover connecting to

01:40 7/7 CX 624 BLR - HKG arrives 10.10 7/7

 

[EestiTiger]

Heard a new one from an agent today...

We can't downgrade you from Business to Economy. Trying to push out a simple QF flight to later in the day and there is only Economy available. BNE-SYD so I am fine to go Economy. Serenity Now.

 

[algae]

Heard a new one from an agent today...

We can't downgrade you from Business to Economy. Trying to push out a simple QF flight to later in the day and there is only Economy available. BNE-SYD so I am fine to go Economy. Serenity Now.

I've heard that before as well. Probably 12 months ago was told they can't mix business and economy

 

[kingzac]

A new one for me. I tried to add 3 flights to a booking, was told it couldn't be over 13 segments, okay I'll add 2 of them and cap out.
Answer came back that to add flights there needs to be an additional 2 seats on all the other flights to complete a new booking and "exchange" over the booking to a new one, and because there are no reward seats left on my 11 other flights it can't be priced and therefore no other flights can be added.
Not worth arguing as the guy was quite nice and seemed to try his best, but this seems a bit ridiculous.

 

[Danger]

Wow. Yes, that is a new one. It's good to see the useless agents expanding their kit of excuses.

 

[Guvner]

Useless is a bit harsh. Poorly trained might be more apt.

 

[Lynda2475]

Still waiting for points to be deducted, new e ticket issued. Wil have to call yet again tomorrow, this is getting tiresome.

 

[Mr H]

Still waiting for points to be deducted, new e ticket issued. Wil have to call yet again tomorrow, this is getting tiresome.

If you have a ticket you don’t need to call again. The points will be taken eventually.

 

[Lynda2475]

If you have a ticket you don’t need to call again. The points will be taken eventually.

Unfortunately i do not have a valid ticket for whole trip. I had one, but then removed a flight and replaced with 2 other flights and they have not been ticketed. So now whole itinerary is at risk. So stressful.