"oneworld" award (132.4K/249.6K/318K/455K) Planning - The Definitive Thread

[tuppaware]

QF - always the ticketing carrier.

Sighhh.... Seems American also re-scheduled a heap of my flights making me leave a destination before I arrive. Qantas Platinum line were very helpful but the segments are married so they have to send it to AA to fix

 

[Saurs82]

Mauritius can you get there on a one world award? Various searches via Qantas website are only giving me options of flying there with emirates. Tried Greece (Athens or Mykonos) and venice and tried flying to cape town for a night then to Mauritius.

 

[madrooster]

Mauritius can you get there on a one world award? Various searches via Qantas website are only giving me options of flying there with emirates. Tried Greece (Athens or Mykonos) and venice and tried flying to cape town for a night then to Mauritius.

Yes - BA from LGW or JNB.

 

[Steve Lim]

Just booked my epic trip for April/May next year over Easter and it’s leaving on a Friday night! Sydney to Doha; Madrid -London - NY; NY to Vancouver; Vancouver to Tokyo via HK; Tokyo back to Sydney; all business class costing 1350 in tax per person

 

[Steve Lim]

Just booked my epic trip for April/May next year over Easter and it’s leaving on a Friday night! Sydney to Doha to Amsterdam ; Madrid -London - NY; NY to Vancouver; Vancouver to Tokyo via HK; Tokyo back to Sydney; all business class costing 1350 in tax per person

 

[Steve Lim]

Sorry it’s Sydney to Doha to Amsterdam

 

[ellen10]

Still trying to plan our exit flight from Australia to be booked in a few months time for next year.
Is it better to look at a multi flight e.g. Sydney to Hong Kong and then Hong Kong to London as they appear. But Hong Kong only being a transit.
Because sometimes when I put in a flight to London its hard to see any J seats.

 

[cjd600]

Still trying to plan our exit flight from Australia to be booked in a few months time for next year.
Is it better to look at a multi flight e.g. Sydney to Hong Kong and then Hong Kong to London as they appear. But Hong Kong only being a transit.
Because sometimes when I put in a flight to London its hard to see any J seats.

If you're looking for CX/CX you'll need to find the SYD-LHR, or have a +24hr stopover for CX/CX as 2 multi legs

 

[Ken1]

If you're looking for CX/CX you'll need to find the SYD-LHR, or have a +24hr stopover for CX/CX as 2 multi legs

If you don't want to stay in HKG for over 24 hours you could also look at CX flights to somewhere else in Europe and connect from there to LHR. I've been looking at flights from SYD to both AMS and LHR for months now and yesterday booked the first leg of our trip that starts in late May next year. We are joining a cruise in Amsterdam and yesterday booked CX J SYD-AMS for May 29. I found that SYD-AMS J flights were only being released each week for flights on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays but not for any other days. The taxes for SYD-AMS were $A331.28 each. You could consider flying SYD-HKG-AMS and connect with BA for AMS-LHR. CX also fly from HKG to CDG, ZRH etc so you could also check out CX flights from SYD to other European cities as well.

I've also seen SYD-LHR with BA on BA16/BA12 released on most days but the BA taxes are higher and were $A428.76 each when I checked recently. I haven't seen any CX SYD-LHR J award flights released in the months I have been checking flights daily.

Another option is to look at CX SYD-HKG and connect to BA28 or BA32 for HKG-LHR on the same day. We did this a couple of years ago but booked SYD-HKG online and then paid the 5000 point change fee to add HKG-LHR the following week when BA flights were released. You could be lucky and still find a SYD-HKG J flight available with CX on the date the BA flights are released and not have to pay the 5000 point change fee.

When I looked at both at 10am on Sunday 3 June CX released CX110 SYD-HKG for Wed 29 May 2019 and the same day BA released BA28 & BA32 for Thu 23 May. I've just looked and see at 8.16pm today CX still have 2 J seats on CX110 available for Sat 25 May and BA have BA28 & BA32 available for the same day. It is a risk waiting though if you need a definite date as there are no J CX SYD-HKG seats (all when searching for 2 seats) for Fri 31 or Thu 30 showing available, although there is availability for May 28, 27, 25, 24, 23, 22. When I looked at taxes for these flights a couple of weeks ago it worked out at $A179.38 for SYD-HKG on CX110 and $HK345 or approx $A117 for the HKG-LHR BA flight. I see that CX are releasing SYD-HKG a day ahead of SYD-AMS each day. When I looked on Sunday 3 June they released SYD-HKG for Wed 29 May and SYD-AMS for Tue 28 May.

 

[ellen10]

If you don't want to stay in HKG for over 24 hours you could also look at CX flights to somewhere else in Europe and connect from there to LHR. I've been looking at flights from SYD to both AMS and LHR for months now and yesterday booked the first leg of our trip that starts in late May next year. We are joining a cruise in Amsterdam and yesterday booked CX J SYD-AMS for May 29. I found that SYD-AMS J flights were only being released each week for flights on Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays but not for any other days. The taxes for SYD-AMS were $A331.28 each. You could consider flying SYD-HKG-AMS and connect with BA for AMS-LHR. CX also fly from HKG to CDG, ZRH etc so you could also check out CX flights from SYD to other European cities as well.

I've also seen SYD-LHR with BA on BA16/BA12 released on most days but the BA taxes are higher and were $A428.76 each when I checked recently. I haven't seen any CX SYD-LHR J award flights released in the months I have been checking flights daily.

Another option is to look at CX SYD-HKG and connect to BA28 or BA32 for HKG-LHR on the same day. We did this a couple of years ago but booked SYD-HKG online and then paid the 5000 point change fee to add HKG-LHR the following week when BA flights were released. You could be lucky and still find a SYD-HKG J flight available with CX on the date the BA flights are released and not have to pay the 5000 point change fee.

When I looked at both at 10am on Sunday 3 June CX released CX110 SYD-HKG for Wed 29 May 2019 and the same day BA released BA28 & BA32 for Thu 23 May. I've just looked and see at 8.16pm today CX still have 2 J seats on CX110 available for Sat 25 May and BA have BA28 & BA32 available for the same day. It is a risk waiting though if you need a definite date as there are no J CX SYD-HKG seats (all when searching for 2 seats) for Fri 31 or Thu 30 showing available, although there is availability for May 28, 27, 25, 24, 23, 22. When I looked at taxes for these flights a couple of weeks ago it worked out at $A179.38 for SYD-HKG on CX110 and $HK345 or approx $A117 for the HKG-LHR BA flight. I see that CX are releasing SYD-HKG a day ahead of SYD-AMS each day. When I looked on Sunday 3 June they released SYD-HKG for Wed 29 May and SYD-AMS for Tue 28 May.

Thank you Ken1 and cjd600.
Thank you Ken very much for your comprehensive information, it is really helpful for my planning. I can be a bit flexible for days of departure but it does seem SYD to LHR with one stop are hard to find. So maybe via somewhere in Europe will be easier. Its always a risk to wait for all the flights to line up or take the first leg and pay the change fee.

When I tried a dummy multi flight booking it did let me do a SYD-HKG and the then flight 2 HKG-LHR but with only a stopover of a few hours. But I'm not sure this is actually allowable.

 

[cjd600]

Thank you Ken1 and cjd600.
Thank you Ken very much for your comprehensive information, it is really helpful for my planning. I can be a bit flexible for days of departure but it does seem SYD to LHR with one stop are hard to find. So maybe via somewhere in Europe will be easier. Its always a risk to wait for all the flights to line up or take the first leg and pay the change fee.

When I tried a dummy multi flight booking it did let me do a SYD-HKG and the then flight 2 HKG-LHR but with only a stopover of a few hours. But I'm not sure this is actually allowable.

It will let you do it online but CX won’t issue/will cancel the ticket due to married segments....

 

[ellen10]

It will let you do it online but CX won’t issue/will cancel the ticket due to married segments....

Oh I didn't know that. So many intricate details. Thanks for the info.
But if it is booked as one flight e.g. SYD-LHR it is ok?

 

[rock86]

It will let you do it online but CX won’t issue/will cancel the ticket due to married segments....

Really, I did not know that either - geez that sucks!

Is there a list of the popular segments anywhere that must be a 'married segment' and not 2 individual mutli-legs?

 

[Ken1]

Oh I didn't know that. So many intricate details. Thanks for the info.
But if it is booked as one flight e.g. SYD-LHR it is ok?

Yes. If you see CX offering SYD-LHR as available that is okay.

You can book CX connecting to BA within 24 hours without any problem since you are connecting to a different airline.

 

[cjd600]

Really, I did not know that either - geez that sucks!

Is there a list of the popular segments anywhere that must be a 'married segment' and not 2 individual mutli-legs?

Its usually airlines that have this requirement, than segments.
QR are the same. Not sure of a definitive list...Mad Rooster will likely know

 

[cjd600]

Oh I didn't know that. So many intricate details. Thanks for the info.
But if it is booked as one flight e.g. SYD-LHR it is ok?

Yes, and like Ken1 said, if you have CX + another airline on the 2 legs searched as a multi, you can connect within 24hrs.

 

[madrooster]

Its usually airlines that have this requirement, than segments.
QR are the same. Not sure of a definitive list...Mad Rooster will likely know

EK, QR, CX, AY, AA

 

[rock86]

EK, QR, CX, AY, AA

Thanks for that @madrooster

Are EK & CX flights to/from the US married??

 

[madrooster]

Thanks for that @madrooster

Are EK & CX flights to/from the US married??

Yes. CX marries all flights, but not cross KA/CX on awards strangely. EK marries all awards too.

 

[rock86]

Yes. CX marries all flights, but not cross KA/CX on awards strangely. EK marries all awards too.

So, if I can't get award seats for say SYD-JFK as a 'single flight' and even though I may be able to get award seats for both legs (SYD-DXB/HKG-JFK) via the multi-city tool, it will not be ticketed because it isn't married?

Sorry for the repeated questions, it's just if that is the case then it's going to make booking some flights a whole lot more difficult.