No More International Lounge Access on Jetstar Flights (except QF codeshare/JQ business max)

[moa999]

So platinum flying JQ on an international business max fare… first or business lounge? Haven’t really found a definite answer to that

I'd say Business.
Much like flying a non-oneworld airline in J that has an agreement to use QF J lounge. You get what you get by that agreement.

 

[CaptJCool]

Is this a QF thing of a JQ thing? Does JQ pay for lounge access for each of its eligible pax?

If so, maybe they’re trying to firm up the eir bottom line?

If JQ don’t pay, I guess something needed to be done about the lounges. They are overcrowded and could really benefit from an uplift to reflect the fares folk are paying.

If we don’t have 200+ JQ pax a day in the lounge, might we see sparkling upgraded to champagne for example?

I highly doubt JQ would be funding entry to the lounge, except where it has been sold as part of a package

No, They will not have access to the international lounge. It will be deemed an international flight.

I’d be surprised if JQ paid QF for anything.
The annual reports all tout JQ profit and QFi struggling to make one.
The easiest way to profit is to have low expenses or offload expenses
JQi has overseas cabin crew bases paying very low wages compared to Australian cabin crew and JQ EAs are paid an hourly rate lower than QFi
QFi follows suit with London based cabin crew. However, the Australian cabin crew employees before 2009 have an EA with the highest hourly rates. Hence the raft of “new employment arrangements since then”

 

[Princess Fiona]

Vicious but accurate

 

[Berlin]

Great news! Less riff raff, less screaming kids, more champagne for the rest of us. Long overdue if you ask me!

 

[hutch]

Yes - it’s already been specifically ruled out for access due to the international flight number. I expect these were part of the business case for killing off access in the first place! A solid delay and a bunch of WPs in the F lounge and the margin from the entire flight is eroded

I'm not complaining or anything as I wouldn't do it anyway. I just assess what is written at the time of reading and I don't see anything about "international flight numbers", just "international flights".

At the end of the day, if someone can purchase a seat from A to B within Australia, and can travel without a passport, for their purposes they are on a domestic flight and have been sold a ticket as such... and at the very least could run a good argument along those lines.

As noted, once more details come out, that may be completely clarified (and I expect it will). I'm only going off the info published to date - that I've seen.

 

[hutch]

Great news! Less riff raff, less screaming kids, more champagne for the rest of us. Long overdue if you ask me!

By being joyous at others misfortune, you are guaranteeing your next F visit will be during QF's special menu... when all items feature a variation of pumpkin.

Bon appetit

 

[kevrosmith]

I guess that will put an end to those sneaky visits to the FLounge on certain JQi flights.

Sorry, haven’t read all 6 pages so far, apologies if already raised/covered.

The wording says passengers wanting to access the lounge can book a Jetstar domestic flight. Do they consider a SYD-CNS flight a domestic flight still then, even if it departs from the international terminal? It’s still a domestic flight, after all.

 

[kpc]

Love the trolling on this thread...if it does not affect me, great changes by Qf!

 

[justinbrett]

I'm not complaining or anything as I wouldn't do it anyway. I just assess what is written at the time of reading and I don't see anything about "international flight numbers", just "international flights".

At the end of the day, if someone can purchase a seat from A to B within Australia, and can travel without a passport, for their purposes they are on a domestic flight and have been sold a ticket as such... and at the very least could run a good argument along those lines.

As noted, once more details come out, that may be completely clarified (and I expect it will). I'm only going off the info published to date - that I've seen.

The argument about these flights being international or domestic has been going on for years here and nothing ever good comes of it.

Specifically here I guarantee it will be treated as international as they are international lounges. A WP couldn’t bring in a extra guest to the F lounge just because they were on a “domestic” flight (although I myself would never call it a domestic flight).

And ET has already confirmed this with QF:
While some may argue that Sydney-Melbourne is a domestic flight, the airline says “if a customer is travelling on a Jetstar code and operated international flight number, the new international policy will apply.”

 

[DownUnderFlyer]

Sorry, haven’t read all 6 pages so far, apologies if already raised/covered.

The wording says passengers wanting to access the lounge can book a Jetstar domestic flight. Do they consider a SYD-CNS flight a domestic flight still then, even if it departs from the international terminal? It’s still a domestic flight, after all.

Over on Flyertalk djsflynn confirmed that domestic legs of international flights will be considered international flights for the purpose of lounge access.

 

[DC3]

.... when all items feature a variation of pumpkin.

Pumpkin. Yummy.

 

[aikman]

Love the trolling on this thread...if it does not affect me, great changes by Qf!

I've always wondered why JQ threads attract a lot of "I don't fly JQ so I don't care" posts.

 

[justinbrett]

I've always wondered why JQ threads attract a lot of "I don't fly JQ so I don't care" posts.

Technically this is a QF thread.

 

[Mr H]

Technically this is a QF thread.

Maybe we could sell off the JQ threads to the highest bidder…

 

[dairyfloss]

I'm not complaining or anything as I wouldn't do it anyway. I just assess what is written at the time of reading and I don't see anything about "international flight numbers", just "international flights".

At the end of the day, if someone can purchase a seat from A to B within Australia, and can travel without a passport, for their purposes they are on a domestic flight and have been sold a ticket as such... and at the very least could run a good argument along those lines.

As noted, once more details come out, that may be completely clarified (and I expect it will). I'm only going off the info published to date - that I've seen.

One could try, though this assumes lounge access will remain available with JQ domestic services......

 

[opusman]

Great news! Less riff raff, less screaming kids, more champagne for the rest of us. Long overdue if you ask me!

Champagne??!!

 

[opusman]

• Partner lounges in most international ports where there is no Qantas owned and operated lounge.

Note it's "partner lounges in most international ports".

Interesting thought though. I have QC life which is indefinitely on hold now due to also having LTG.

If as LTG I am not eligible for lounge access any more - could I claim my QC benefits?

 

[dairyfloss]

Note it's "partner lounges in most international ports".

Interesting thought though. I have QC life which is indefinitely on hold now due to also having LTG.

If as LTG I am not eligible for lounge access any more - could I claim my QC benefits?

I wouldn't have thought so, given QC doesn't get access either:

 

[hutch]

One could try, though this assumes lounge access will remain available with JQ domestic services......

Given the direction they are going (whether it's right or wrong), it probably made more sense for QF to drop all status or QC lounge access for JQ - domestic or international.

Cleaner, provides more brand difference and just rips off the bandage in one go.

 

[SYD]

Given the direction they are going (whether it's right or wrong), it probably made more sense for QF to drop all status or QC lounge access for JQ - domestic or international.

Cleaner, provides more brand difference and just rips off the bandage in one go.

That may come, but retaining it for now keeps VA hemmed in out of some ports.

Of course, SYD and MEL, it’s impractical anyway - although I’m sure some do… So that’s a fair chunk of JQ PAX already out of play.