More Central and Eastern European bling (incl Transylvania); *A flights, Accor hotels

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Yes, its found under 'windows accessories', although I keep it handy in the task bar:

Just open the tool, click on 'new' and drag the cursor over the area to be captured, and save it as a JPEG.

I also keep it handy on the task bar as I use it fairly often but I just didn't think to use it to handle the photos for an AFF TR. Thanks for the tip! :D.
 
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Sorry to sidetrack, but it can often depend on the sort of car. When last in Germany I was given an Audi A4 as an upgrade, but when I said I wanted to go to the Czech Rep, they gave me a brand new Opel Astra instead (about 20 kms on the clock) and was told 'go where you want, Poland, Croatia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Greece, Romania' they didn't care where. They wouldn't allow certain makes to venture into the old Eastern Europe.

I delved into the memory banks on this and IIRC, what actually happened in Austria when I collected the car is that I asked about going into Czech but there was an insurance surcharge. The problem was that I would have had to pay it for every day of the rental, when all I wanted to do was go into Czech for a couple of days out of the two weeks just to visit Cesky Krumlov which is not far from the Austrian border. So I opted not to.

Sorry, it was bugging me - back to topic...
 
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First Class TR
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Some wonderful tips as well!
 
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Coming up ... I hate Venice.
 
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Re: More Central and Eastern European bling (incl Transylvania); *A flights, Accor ho

We had a final hour in Sibiu, another old city with defenses etc but to be honest, our heart wasn’t in it and I’ll spear you the pics and details. Off to Sibiu airport, which received about six international flights a day; it’s a bit bigger than Hobart airport (but no lounge :( ). Brasov, bigger and more touristy, has no commercial airport. Our trusty Austrian Airlines Dash 8 arrived, and departed on time.

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We arrived Venice on time and got a bus ticket to the road terminus on the island. And things went downhill quickly. :(

I must confess, in thirty years of travelling the world, I never had any great urge to visit Italy. Don’t know why - maybe it’s the reputation for chaos, and I like things ordered and predicable. I did visit on business once – to Florence, Pisa and Tuscany believe it or not – and that didn’t sway my priorities. But my friends did visit about 20 years ago, BK (before kids) and were keen to go again.

Trying to find the right bus from the airport to get to the island, I’m pretty sure we were sworn at by two divers when we tried to find out if we were boarding the right one. Before the end of the day, I observed [/rant warning]:

* Venice is just a huge tourist trap – great vistas and art, but hard work;

* Public transport types are unfailingly rude (and yes, we always tried our basic Italian when asking for anything). What's the Italian for "You may not like us, but we give you a job - mate!";

* The streets are dirty – household rubbish is put out in plastic bags along the alleyways, and the stray dogs and birds open up the bags and spread the rubbish about the streets;

* Urine from various species running across the pavements. At one small bridge, I watched in morbid fascination as a dog squatted at the top, and a small waterfall of urine cascaded down the stairs, pooling artistically in the indentations caused by millions of users of the steps;

* Notwithstanding it’s a tourist trap, the signages etc are simply hopeless. I don’t find ‘getting lost in Venice’ to be one of its charms;

* Oh, and when you buy a ferry ticket for route 4.1, why does the ferry leave from the pontoon marked Route 7, and not the adjacent pontoon marked “4.1”?

* Many of those outwardly charming cafes sell horrible food for horrible prices;

* The buildings are dirty and crumbling. I have no doubt that it costs a bucket to just maintain, but the monuments which must rake in €100,000 a day, at least might at least repair or maintain the crumbling rendered facades (Ducal Palace, for instance).

[/rant mostly over]

I’m happy for people to say I’m being too hard, or not looking at the romance and history of the place (and the irony of being part of cause of the tourist crush is not lost on me :) ). But sorry, it just didn’t float my boat, if you’ll pardon the obvious pun. My friends lamented that it wasn’t as pleasant experience as they remembered from before.

Like with the Habsburgs, I’ve never figured out the Medici’s, and can’t be bothered doing so on this visit. And since Venice has been done a million times, I think I’ll just post some pics and details that people might find interesting.

But first we check into the Accor Mgallery Hotel Papadopoli Venice. “Mgallery” brand I understand is assigned to Accor hotel with ‘classic’ or ‘grand’ aspirations, or pretentions depending on your point of view. They are pitched between Sofitel and Novotel, on par with Pullman. All four hotels we had in Italy were Mgallery and I must say on the whole we were disappointed. There were some glaring deficiencies.

The Papodopoli is beside the Papadopoli gardens immediately off the Piazzale Roma where the busses and cars have their nearest approach to Venice, and across the canal from the railway station. We chose it because it was Accor and its proximity to the bus station (our arrival) and rail station (our departure). But it did mean a hike to the main tourist sights  (no problem there).

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My room was possibly one of the smallest I have ever had in an upscale hotel. There was barely walking room around the bed. I am travelling with a suitcase and a carry-on; the suitcase had to sit on the bidet in the bathroom as there was no room otherwise.

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In the evening we found out that the restaurant was closed because it was Sunday night even club sandwiches were off because it meant frying the bacon. Major fail in an upscale hotel. We went to a café over the road for a very average introduction to Italian dining.

And before we get to the bits of Venice that I liked, can I get something off my chest? OK, you are going to build a new bridge in Venice, over the Grand Canal. It’s the 1980s or 1990s. Its linking the Piazzale Roma and the Papadopoli part of the main island with the railway station and the the other side of the canal. Hundreds - ?thousands? of suitcases will be toted across this bridge every day. SO, FOR THE LOVE OF MIKE, can some-one tell me why there were no frigging ramps put in? They have been retrofitted to some of the old bridges, but not on this new one, leading to the blessed railway station? And after the bridge, with the new canal-side pathway immediately next to the train station, did we really need to have only these steps? No room for just a teensy ramp? :evil::evil::evil:

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Normal 'on holiday' spirit will resume tomorrow. ;)
 
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Panoramas of St Mark’s Square from both ends:

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… and some details of the facades.

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We wandered past St Marks I think about 8:10am and it opened at 8:30am; the queue was about 40 deep so we thought we’d join it. By the time the gates opened at 8:30, the queue was about 200 long, but it moved pretty quick (no tickets). Here’s some decoration nabove the entrance way, and the interior.

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More interior (wonder who the chosen people were?). Later in the day, on the high tide, water started coming up through the grates in the lower parts of the square.

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Hey, mum! I got this cool modelling contract! They said they’d even get me a fig leaf and everything later!

... Shut-up son, eventually we all get shyte-upon.


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What’s that quote? “Gondolas, gondolas, gondolas ….” ?

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In the merchant of Venice, Shylock asks “What news on the Rialto?” In the pic on the RH side, the news is that the Rialto market seems a bit quiet – no pound of flesh being transacted there – although there was plenty being carved out of tourist’s wallets elsewhere! LH pic shows a busy day on the Grand Canal

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In the Academia gallery I did a double take on this gory painting by Carpaccio – I studied it at school, too many years ago. There is some great detail and colour in it.

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These views from the bell tower in St Marks square

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And the Grand Canal

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The Ducal or Doge’s Palace. The resident of the Doge of Venice, the Duke or effective ruler. The first couple of versions after 1000AD were destroyed one way or another and the present structure dates variously from the 1400 and 1500s, with later additions and modifcations after various fires.

It opens at 8:30am; we turned up at 8:20 and were the third in line. So no waiting, straight in and we could view the state rooms and galleries pretty much in peace.

The classic outside view, and the inner courtyard.

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Then there are some of the State rooms, and even the most jaded can get exited by these.

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The pic on the right is the entry to the Bridge of Sighs from the prison side – it links the prisons with the court rooms in the Doge’s Palace.

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Two views – from the bridge looking out and towards the vantage point of the other one.

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Finally the exit – it’s the grand entry staircase.

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Time to leave Venice, so we tote our bags over to the train station – over the ‘bridge of steps’ noted in the first post on Venice, and down yet more steps on the walkway towards the station. We have pre paid 1st class tickets, so just a matter of waiting to board. Its chaos at the station, with people milling round, trying to figure out where their train leaves from. Not a single seat to be had, except in the outdoor smoking area of the café, so people are sitting on the ground, wherever they happened to stop. We get some expressos and drink them standing at the bar a la Italia.

The departure and arrival boards are interesting. Trains come in, and disgorge pax, but don’t appear on the arrivals board. The platform for the departing trains only gets put up 5 to 10 minutes before scheduled departure. We are worried that the platform may be a long way away – but no, it’s the one in front of us, that had a phantom arrival’ 10m minutes ago.

Board and stow large bags at the front of the carriage (within view, fortunately as we were warned on AFF about thefts of unattended bags. The seats are fairly comfy. It’s a 2 hour non express trip to Florence. Wi-Fi on board costs 1 euro cent, just to get rego details.

Although our hotel in Florence is less than 1km from the train station, we were warned about rough cobblestones and our luggage wheels so we said to heck with it, we’ll get a cab.

Hotel Cerratini Frienze – another Accor MGallery job – is really well located, only about 300m from the Cathedral. The rooms are much larger here compared to Venice:

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We had all been to Florence before and it’s just a one afternoon/night stop over to re-visit and enjoy some of the sights without the running around.
The main joy is of course the Duomo and Battistero. The Cathedral was begun in1296 and not surprisingly took about 150 years to finish. Again, we’d all climbed the dome before so declined the opportunity to join the hundreds in the queue to do it again. The baptistery tower dates from the 11th Century (not pictured – it’s mainly wrapped in renovation stuff at the moment).

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The details on the Cathedral are of course exquisite:

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And what’s Florence without the Ponte Vecchio dating from the mid 1300s? Well, it’s some where there in the LH pic and we wished the taxi driver well in getting through. A more conventional view in the RH pic.

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Re: More Central and Eastern European bling (incl Transylvania); *A flights, Accor ho

Oh, oh. Laptop issues on the road.

Will have to continue after I get home if I can't fix.
 
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Oh, oh. Laptop issues on the road.

Will have to continue after I get home if I can't fix.

Uh oh. Hope you get that sorted.
 
Re: More Central and Eastern European bling (incl Transylvania); *A flights, Accor ho

Finally joined the journey and caught up today... though looks like the laptop issues may have brought the report to an abrupt halt at the moment...? Great photos and great reading. I've never though to travel to Eastern Europe and this has helped provide a view on what is possible.
 
Re: More Central and Eastern European bling (incl Transylvania); *A flights, Accor ho

Finally joined the journey and caught up today... though looks like the laptop issues may have brought the report to an abrupt halt at the moment...? Great photos and great reading. I've never though to travel to Eastern Europe and this has helped provide a view on what is possible.
I went through Eastern Europe first nearly 30 years ago, while I loved it it was at times hard to get the sort of luxuries we are used to in western countries (so I enjoyed the architecture and some of the cultural experience but not the food, the service or the scowling locals). And in Romania they took 4 hours searching our van trying to get in (we think they wanted a bribe but we were too poor to provide) and everywhere I went we felt we were being watched by the secret police (largely because they were indeed following us). So I was a bit ambivalent about going back last year.

Well, have a totally different view now. The food was great, the architecture/culture was still great, the service has improved out of this world and the people are extremely friendly. And the big thing was that you can get just about everything Western Europe offers but at a fraction of the price. I'm a total convert, next time I want to go back and visit some of the places I missed last year. who needs Western Europe!
 
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I went through Eastern Europe first nearly 30 years ago, while I loved it it was at times hard to get the sort of luxuries we are used to in western countries (so I enjoyed the architecture and some of the cultural experience but not the food, the service or the scowling locals). And in Romania they took 4 hours searching our van trying to get in (we think they wanted a bribe but we were too poor to provide) and everywhere I went we felt we were being watched by the secret police (largely because they were indeed following us). So I was a bit ambivalent about going back last year.

There were some advantages to visiting Romania back then. Last time I was there in 1992 I was quite young but I remember a suite at the Bucharest InterContinental was ~$50 per night and a meal for a group of 8 was ~$20 include drinks!
Stories I heard from my parents about the communism days when foreign tourists were treated like kings and enjoyed exclusive access to shops, hotels and resorts kept only for those who had US dollars (it used to be a crime to hold foreign currency in Romania).
Regarding the food, I actually heard it was much better when everything used to be organic and "home made". Since the country opened to the west and gained access to modern technology a lot of the traditional dishes lost their original flavour.
Off course the democracy days are much better, especially for the locals.
 
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There were some advantages to visiting Romania back then. Last time I was there in 1992 I was quite young but I remember a suite at the Bucharest InterContinental was ~$50 per night and a meal for a group of 8 was ~$20 include drinks!
Stories I heard from my parents about the communism days when foreign tourists were treated like kings and enjoyed exclusive access to shops, hotels and resorts kept only for those who had US dollars (it used to be a crime to hold foreign currency in Romania).
Regarding the food, I actually heard it was much better when everything used to be organic and "home made". Since the country opened to the west and gained access to modern technology a lot of the traditional dishes lost their original flavour.
Off course the democracy days are much better, especially for the locals.

Boomy, although not the Intercon Bucharest, I still got a great and large 2 course meal, with beer to start and 2 glasses wine, at a top 3 ranked restaurant in Brasov for about $20 :)

Off the tourist trail you could still do it for $5 I'm sure.

I'm not sure there is any 'western comfortable' accommodation that would still be considered cheap, though.

ps. Fan on laptop dead, it overheats and shuts down. Thank goodness for ipad back- up, but not suitable for posting pics ( digital camera used).


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<snip>. who needs Western Europe!

Here! here! I just spent a day in London ( personal errand ) and besides what I had to do, I couldn't wait to leave. Expensive, crowded, dirty, untrusting.

And I am definitely not tired of life!


RooFlyer
 
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Boomy, although not the Intercon Bucharest, I still got a great and large 2 course meal, with beer to start and 2 glasses wine, at a top 3 ranked restaurant in Brasov for about $20 :)

Off the tourist trail you could still do it for $5 I'm sure.

I'm not sure there is any 'western comfortable' accommodation that would still be considered cheap, though.

ps. Fan on laptop dead, it overheats and shuts down. Thank goodness for ipad back- up, but not suitable for posting pics ( digital camera used).


RooFlyer

I believe there is still a lot of cheap, very comfortable accommodation available throughout Europe. In the main it seems to be great apartments rather than mainstream/brand hotels. Actually it seems that included facilities have been improving.
I have enjoyed your trip report, brings back a lot of memories of Romania & Bulgaria from 2008
 
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There were some advantages to visiting Romania back then. Last time I was there in 1992 I was quite young but I remember a suite at the Bucharest InterContinental was ~$50 per night and a meal for a group of 8 was ~$20 include drinks!
Stories I heard from my parents about the communism days when foreign tourists were treated like kings and enjoyed exclusive access to shops, hotels and resorts kept only for those who had US dollars (it used to be a crime to hold foreign currency in Romania).
Regarding the food, I actually heard it was much better when everything used to be organic and "home made". Since the country opened to the west and gained access to modern technology a lot of the traditional dishes lost their original flavour.
Off course the democracy days are much better, especially for the locals.

I've got tentative plans to head to Paris for the French Open next year, and was considering doing France, Germany and Italy for a couple weeks after. While I still definitely want to do Italy, perhaps I should skirt across to Eastern Europe... I'm not known for being adventurous. Would it work as a solo traveller? Or am I best to stick to the West? Thinking, thinking..
 
Re: More Central and Eastern European bling (incl Transylvania); *A flights, Acco...

I've got tentative plans to head to Paris for the French Open next year, and was considering doing France, Germany and Italy for a couple weeks after. While I still definitely want to do Italy, perhaps I should skirt across to Eastern Europe... I'm not known for being adventurous. Would it work as a solo traveller? Or am I best to stick to the West? Thinking, thinking..

Each region has it's own charm. I can't really recommend you to swap a trip to Germany but if you are looking to add some destinations in the East to your itinerary then I can suggest starting with a visit to Budapest and Prague. Both cities are very tourist friendly.
 
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Boomy, although not the Intercon Bucharest, I still got a great and large 2 course meal, with beer to start and 2 glasses wine, at a top 3 ranked restaurant in Brasov for about $20 :)

The price I was taking about was for all 8 people at a high class restaurant in the capital city.
Nevertheless, good to hear that food is still very affordable.

ps. Fan on laptop dead, it overheats and shuts down. Thank goodness for ipad back- up, but not suitable for posting pics ( digital camera used).

Sorry to hear that mate, we will have to wait a bit longer for the pics but judging from your TR so far, it will be worth it!
 
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