MH 777 missing - MH370 media statement

cirqueboy · Mar 15, 2014

The US knows way more than we publicly know. The game is diplomacy and what each country will or will not share with each other. Shame that innocent peoples lives are just mere pawns within a bigger game......

medhead · Mar 15, 2014

If the plane has been stolen they should get Airplane Repo on the job.

prozac said:
If it was a plane load of Israelis they would have the plane back by now and the movie would be released next week.

I like the suggestion that Iran is involved. Politically china and Iran are friendly countries. China seem to be the wrong country to target. They could send over about 4 people to every Iranian and just say this is china now.

mrfreeze · Mar 15, 2014

Jousams said:
Okay, what amazes me is that Boeing, rolls Royce, MAS, Honeywell, Malaysian Govt, or any other group that that forms part of the plane or Wider picture don't have some kind of GPS tracking (regardless of what the pilot or anyone else on board turns on or off)!!!

We are talking about a >$200 million piece of equipment how can it just disappear!?

My thoughts as well.

The ability to "turn off" any sort of tracking / position information of a multi million dollar aircraft (asset) should not be allowed.
At all times I would of expected an airline to know where it's plane are.

edit:
Read about the possibility of an electrical fire and the need to turn off.
Makes sense, but I would of thought you would have a back up system in place - which then most likely comes down to cost.

azza_1992 · Mar 15, 2014

Warks said:
Here's the latest from Flying With Fish on Twit.
View attachment 26198

What has Flying with Fish based this on? Just his speculation as to where the plane have been taken?

I hate to add to the whirlpool of wild speculation, but is there potentially a Russia/Ukraine connection? The Kazakhstan/Turkmenistan corridor as described sounds roughly in line with a great circle between it's last known position in Malaysia and Crimea. There were two middle aged Ukrainian men on board according to the manifest. Obviously hijacking a plane full of Chinese people in Malaysia doesn't seem like the most straight forward way of affecting change 4000 miles away.

whatmeworry · Mar 15, 2014

prozac said:
If it was a plane load of Israelis they would have the plane back by now and the movie would be released next week.

Well they are God's chosen people...

Warks · Mar 15, 2014

azza_1992 said:
What has Flying with Fish based this on? Just his speculation as to where the plane have been taken?

I can only quote from the Twitter feed:

Folks, this is how I arrived at my *GUESSTIMATE* based on info of where #MH370 ended, with the help of some experts.

Again, my guesstimate on where #MH370, based on info I received and tweeted last night, and supported by Malaysia’s PM, could be 100% wrong.

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prozac · Mar 15, 2014

medhead said:
If the plane has been stolen they should get Airplane Repo on the job.

I like the suggestion that Iran is involved. Politically china and Iran are friendly countries. China seem to be the wrong country to target. They could send over about 4 people to every Iranian and just say this is china now.

Like they have in Africa...

:evil:

JessicaTam · Mar 15, 2014

Serfty, do you have a link to the FT wiki? Search comes up with nix.

maomaocat · Mar 15, 2014

straitman said:
Happy to try and answer but I can't as I don't understand the context.
Angle of attack is purely an aerodynamic consideration.
The ceiling can be found from the Boeing web site or even Wikipedia.
Jet streams are not always consistent so there may or may not have been one present.

I did ask this a few days ago!

Are the 20 odd electronic warfare specialists part of the prize? Lots of talk about passport and border security, how much is there surrounding handling passenger manifests?

Rebekkap · Mar 15, 2014

Warks said:
I tried watching on ABC24 but it just pixellates all the time like all the digital ABC channels. Does anyone else get this? Every other channel is fine except the four ABC channels. Been like this for weeks.

More speculation to add to the speculation it seems.

You need to retune your tv - Digital TV Switchover Australia - Retune

Grooba · Mar 15, 2014

JessicaTam said:
Serfty, do you have a link to the FT wiki? Search comes up with nix.

Are you after this JT?

MH370 [772] KUL-PEK Missing ~1730 GMT 7 Mar 2014: SAR Underway [READ WIKI FIRST] - FlyerTalk Forums

cirqueboy · Mar 15, 2014

JessicaTam said:
Serfty, do you have a link to the FT wiki? Search comes up with nix.

MH370 [772] KUL-PEK Missing ~1730 GMT 7 Mar 2014: SAR Underway [READ WIKI FIRST] - FlyerTalk Forums

if it doesn't come up, top right hand side and expand the +

JessicaTam · Mar 15, 2014

vec said:
Are you after this JT?

MH370 [772] KUL-PEK Missing ~1730 GMT 7 Mar 2014: SAR Underway [READ WIKI FIRST] - FlyerTalk Forums

I found the thread, just not the wiki referred to "Read first"

Edit: Thanks cirqueboy.

markis10 · Mar 15, 2014

Last ping was from a location in red!

cirqueboy · Mar 15, 2014

From me in the US, the most up to date info is coming actually coming from the smh.com.au

they are spitting out Reuters and NYT yet you get it before we all do.

markis10 · Mar 15, 2014

cirqueboy said:
From me in the US, the most up to date info is coming actually coming from the smh.com.au

they are spitting out Reuters and NYT yet you get it before we all do.

The WSJ has been on the money for a couple of days.

cirqueboy · Mar 15, 2014

Correct.

The game is now anyones guess. USA have the answers, just a matter of time.

burmans · Mar 15, 2014

cirqueboy said:
Correct.

The game is now anyones guess. USA have the answers, just a matter of time.

You mean like they had the answers of where the WMD were? They have plenty of "intelligence" but not always the intelligence to interpret it when it counts.

markis10 · Mar 15, 2014

markis10 said:
Last ping was from a location in red!

View attachment 26201

In case your wondering what that is all about, there were stories around earlier talking about the ping giving location, it looks like the ping actually says I am here waiting for instructions and I can see the immarsat at x number of degrees from the horizon. In this case its 40 degrees. I would imagine the red lines stop where its not possible for the aircraft to be based on time flown.

cirqueboy · Mar 15, 2014

markis10 said:
In case your wondering what that is all about, there were stories around earlier talking about the ping giving location, it looks like the ping actually says I am here waiting for instructions and I can see the immarsat at x number of degrees from the horizon. In this case its 40 degrees. I would imagine the red lines stop where its not possible for the aircraft to be based on time flown.

So between the red lines, is that a triangulation and the red lines are summations of what could have occurred?

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