Air Canada RJ impact with ground vehicle, at least 2 fatalities

[markis10]

Looks like a loss of separation with ground traffic and the pilots have passed. Pretty high energy impact.

Air Canada crash: Plane hits vehicle at LaGuardia, FAA halts flights event.

Air Canada plane: An Air Canada Express flight from Montreal struck a ground vehicle while landing at New York’s LaGuardia airport, prompting FAA ground stop orders and possible shutdown till 1800 GMT; damage to the aircraft nose was seen in videos.

www.deccanherald.com

 

[Flyerwin]

OMG. RIP pilots, condolences to the family.

 

[RooFlyer]

FR24

Air Canada CRJ collides with fire fighting truck on landing in New York | Flightradar24 Blog

An Air Canada CRJ-900 flight AC8646 collided with a fire fighting truck on landing in New York at La Guardia Airport.

www.flightradar24.com

 

[RSD]

Collided on a taxiway - not looking good

 

[SCM]

Geez, must have been some impact? How the heck does that even happen. Looks like it happened on a turn, so surely it wasn't going that fast?

 

[Quickstatus]

Looks like it happened on a turn, so surely it wasn't going that fast?

Maybe the accident occurred as they were coming off at a Rapid exit taxiway, and/or the accident cause the aircraft to swing around.
The RET possibly is F and the accident with the truck occurred on the runway at the junction of the runway at E/F or just as the aircraft tried to turn off the runway
Suggestion is that the truck was cleared to cross at D





Blue dots indicate ADS-B speeds

 

[markis10]

On landing! Runway and surface movement controllers had a separation breakdown as truck was cleared to cross.

 

[Quickstatus]

Runway and surface movement controllers had a separation breakdown as truck was cleared to cross.

Initial info suggests the truck was cleared to cross at D but the accident happened at E/F

 

[markis10]

Doesn’t make much difference whether it was D or E

 

[Quickstatus]

The cabin crew at the front is very lucky

 

[Quickstatus]

Doesn’t make much difference whether it was D or E

It may have... will need to listen to the ATC - was the clearance given after the aircraft crossed D?

 

[chitown_boy]

It may have... will need to listen to the ATC - was the clearance given after the aircraft crossed D?

ATC recording here:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2035927588669890851

 

[Quickstatus]

ATC recording here:

Sounds like the truck though it was at D.

Did ATC previously tell the truck to hold short of RWY4 at D?

Doesn’t make much difference whether it was D or E

It appears there were more than one truck - "truck and company" and ATC approved RWY crossing in front of the Jazz express (accident aircraft)
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Possibly the aircraft JZA646 had just landed or about to land when approval given for the more than one truck to cross the runway.
Screenshot at the time when approval given to cross - relative to the position of the aircraft.
If crossing at D (as intended?), the impact may have been worse as the aircraft speed would have been higher.

 

[RooFlyer]

ATC audio <See chitown boy posted already>

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[RooFlyer]

Doesn’t make much difference whether it was D or E

Might in the investigation?

 

[Saab34]

That is just shocking, how can anyone up the front even remotely survive that.

 

[Quickstatus]

how can anyone up the front even remotely survive that.

There would be a cabin crew at the front - lucky even with injuries

 

[Saab34]

Many outlets are reporting the two pilots are sadly deceased.

 

[chitown_boy]

An incident like this is why I always feel a tad uneasy taxiing at airports in the US, particularly at night and at busy ones like jfk/lga.

There was a really good NYTime’s investigation on the growing number of near-misses and the understaffing/overworking conditions of ATC (behind paywall): Airline Close Calls Happen Far More Often Than Previously Known (Published 2023)

 

[RSD]

Might in the investigation?

It will be.

Sequence of events (as much as is known)

- "JAZ646" was somewhere about touching down on Runway 04
- When ARFF Truck 1 (and company - meaning more ARFF trucks or other vehicles following) requested permission to cross (the active) Runway 04 at D
- Tower gave Truck 1 & company permission to cross runway 4 at D
- Jaz646 exited the runway at F and collided at a speed of about 40km/h with either Truck 1 or another ARFF truck that was following

That seems to be about all that is reasonably known at the moment.