How many people actually fly F in their lives?

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Bindibuys

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Paid SQ F Syd-Sin-Zur-Sin-Syd.
QF points for: Syd-Dxb, Doh-Aut Dxb-Hkg

(and I created a F monster, who now only wants to fly F & J)
 

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No idea but my logic says a very small fraction. It’s extremely expensive and most people have no idea how to use points and miles. In Australia, even those who try to use points (mainly QF points) to fly F will have almost zero chance to score a seat.
We’ve, as a couple, had no trouble using points to fly F, but I think you need to be flexible with dates. In a few weeks we’ll be flying with Emirates, Zurich to Singapore - a few nights in Singapore - then Qantas home to Melbourne.
 

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This is an interesting question, I suspect the number may actually be larger than people think. I suspect for people that can afford it, it just becomes the regular way to travel, is that more than 1%? I'm not sure.

I've only managed to fly F 5 times ex Australia (all on points) but almost all of those flights have ended up with full cabins.
 

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I've been in F with a full cabin, I've been in F with only 2, both on points.
For arguments sake, let's say the cabin is half full on average. Divided the capacity of the aircraft by that figure and you may just, but only just get an indication of how many might fly F.
Can't be anymore inaccurate than a guess can it?
 
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I've been in F with a full cabin, I've been in F with only 2, both on points.
For arguments sake, let's say the cabin is half full on average. Divided the capacity of the aircraft by that figure and you may just, but only just get an indication of how many might fly F.
Can't be anymore inaccurate than a guess can it?

I was thinking similar, but then I couldn't be bothered trying to work out the total F capacity across all airlines coming in and out of AUS each week.

As far as I know, it is only SQ, QF, TG, EK and EY have I missed any? But working out the actual number of seats would require more effort than I am willing to place in to the question :)
 

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I've been in F with a full cabin, I've been in F with only 2, both on points.
For arguments sake, let's say the cabin is half full on average. Divided the capacity of the aircraft by that figure and you may just, but only just get an indication of how many might fly F.
Can't be anymore inaccurate than a guess can it?

A guess it certainly is - and that doesn't account for (what I suggest would be common in certain circles) repeat F fliers - (addiction to points realisation, and all that... ;):)).
 

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I was thinking similar, but then I couldn't be bothered trying to work out the total F capacity across all airlines coming in and out of AUS each week.

As far as I know, it is only SQ, QF, TG, EK and EY have I missed any? But working out the actual number of seats would require more effort than I am willing to place in to the question :)

MU, CA, BA and QR as well. And I think Xiamen Airlines. OZ offers F seasonally. Not sure about KE? I think I worked it out at around 2000 F class seats a week a while back... averaging SQ's F cabins as 8 per flight given some operate in F12 (A380), some in F4 (777s), and some in F8 (also 777s). With the new A380 that might reduce the numbers by a tiny amount. EK has huge numbers with double daily A380s out of many cities.
 

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MU, CA, BA and QR as well. And I think Xiamen Airlines. OZ offers F seasonally. Not sure about KE? I think I worked it out at around 2000 F class seats a week a while back... averaging SQ's F cabins as 8 per flight given some operate in F12 (A380), some in F4 (777s), and some in F8 (also 777s). With the new A380 that might reduce the numbers by a tiny amount. EK has huge numbers with double daily A380s out of many cities.

Oops totally forgot about BA and QR. I also didnt realise MU and CA offered F ex-AUS I thought that had stopped, you learn something new every day.

Assuming your 2000 seats was each way that works out at ~208,000 a year. So 120,000 is probably a good guess
 

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Oops totally forgot about BA and QR. I also didnt realise MU and CA offered F ex-AUS I thought that had stopped, you learn something new every day.

Assuming your 2000 seats was each way that works out at ~208,000 a year. So 120,000 is probably a good guess

Yes, each way.

a friend flies monthly to china and apparently there is F offered on 777 operated flights by MU, and I think CA as well on some services to PEK.
 

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Assuming your 2000 seats was each way that works out at ~208,000 a year. So 120,000 is probably a good guess

So based on that, if every available F seat was allocated out to every Australian, one flight only, it would take 115 years for every person to get their single flight in F.
 

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So based on that, if every available F seat was allocated out to every Australian, one flight only, it would take 115 years for every person to get their single flight in F.

given we’ve had about 50 years worth of first class cabins starting with the 707 (and back then F cabins were quite large, maybe 20-24+ seats), we’re about half way there! :)
 

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Just once DXB to PER. Ticked off a bucket list item. Overrated IMHO, Longhaul J is fine for me.
 
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